The Butcher Shop

Hello, folks, and welcome. I'm laughing already. To the Cinema

Beef Podcast. I am one of your hosts, Gary Hill. With me tonight,

as usual, is Suzanne. Greetings from

allergy hell. I'm sorry.

Yeah, it happens.

Also with us, and certainly not least, is Mr. Jeffrey X.

Barton. How you doing, sir? Konichiwa,

indeed. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, you have to get that

conversation before the show for that. For that reference right there.

But maybe. Yeah,

maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Oh, my gosh.

All right. Yeah, I'm back from. From a small, small hiatus

on this show. Appreciate you guys for. For holding it down and

getting a little goofy on me, and that's cool, you know.

Oh, we. We all over that episode. It's. Oh, God,

it was bad. It was. It was funny. It was.

It was funny at the time. I hope. I hope it was funny like,

you know, later.

So that I never released. I lost it to my computer in

the fire. But Patrick Walsh

came on the show from the Screen Scream Queens

podcast, you know. Oh, God,

Gets Gay. I think the whole titles. They want me to see the whole thing.

It's like A Tribe Called Quest with that guy.

Yeah. And him and Suzanne were getting

in the business there, where they were. They were lit. There you go. And they

were just goofing off, and I was like, how am I gonna. This is like

a piece of shit. You know, I almost want to give it to Suzanne and

say, hey, you do this. You did this, obviously. And then, you know,

I wasn't alone. Yeah, I guess so. Miss you,

Patrick Walsh. I owe you a show, my good friend. But anywho,

we'll start the show like we always start the show. And I'll ask Suzanne

what's she been watching late. Oh, to be honest, it's mostly been watched the last

weekend of baseball, so now I'm full

on football and waiting for hockey. And I actually,

God help me, I started watching monsters.

The Menendez brothers. I am five episodes

deep, and I swear to God, I have not laughed so hard as

I have at this. It is absolutely

a sight to behold.

And the one thing that I have to admit cracks me up about this,

the excessive use of Milli Vanilli.

It is. It is very overwhelming,

and I just start laughing. When it

comes to murder, Suzanne, you gotta blame it on something, right? You know? Yeah.

Well, apparently, instead of blaming it on the rain, they blamed it on abuse.

And now the most I know about the Menendez brothers, I grew up at the

time, you know, would have been newsworthy stuff. But I Was probably about,

I don't know, eight or nine or so. You know, again, I'm showing the age

gap here is that their father was the one that owned live

entertainment. And, yeah, his murder is the reason why

I don't have a proper release of Fright Night Part two yet and

waiting, you know, so that's. That hurts my feelings.

Oh, that's terrible. Oh, my gosh.

Anyhow, Sue. Oh, yeah, And I did a little

bit. I caught part of this Albert

Brooks documentary. So I ended up having to go and watch real life.

If you ever get a chance. It is a.

He did some amazing movies. I forgot how much I enjoyed

most of his films. And it kind of ties in because he

used to do the shorts on the. At least the first season of Saturday Night

Live. He's really brilliant at, you know,

just kind of doing the slice of American life.

So it was really. It was. It was really

interesting to watch and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

And I also decided, yeah, I watched the Omen.

I watched the Omen Part 2 a while ago, and I'm like, you know,

I kind of gotta just, you know, put my feet down

and just watch the Final Conflict. I really don't see

any need to watch anything else past the Final Conflict.

Hell, I tried to watch the first Omen I got about halfway through and I'm

like, I'm gonna preserve my sanity here.

I disagree. If you watch the Omen, Final Conflict,

you watch the Omen 4 back to back, you're gonna have

a good laughter of a day. Because Final Conflict

has a baby killing montage that beats the band.

And the fourth, I remember I watched Part

four. It's just funny. It's just funny.

But poor, poor Michael Lerner's about to get killed by. You know,

her name was Delia, Little Damien girl.

And all of a sudden this undead singing choir shows

up to accompany him to his death. It's hilarious.

Come on now. You know, I haven't watched. I did watch Part four,

but I just don't feel the need to watch it again. It's like, if you're

wondering where that choir music was coming from, well,

apparently it's the undead choir that's walking with Michael Lerner wherever he

goes. And, you know. Yeah, yeah,

pretty much. And how loud was your father in law screaming last

week when Tennessee won? I was

not in the house for that.

So I don't know, but I'm sure before

my bad. Yeah, there was. Well. Oh, yeah, that was a bye week last week.

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't. We've been

spending a lot of time over with the kids,

so I think I missed the Ric Flairing that I would

normally have heard.

That's awesome. I wish I could get just a surreptitious

recording of him doing the redneck mating call

every time there's a touchdown. Oh, God,

please. You do need to do that and send it to me.

It's. It's impressive.

I'll put it that way. You really have to capture that and

send it to me. Well, my. My father's great

sports moments were him sitting on the chair in my living

room whenever the White Sox would. Would score a home run.

It was about Hawk. Harold said he would stay right along with him. You could

put it on the board. Yes. My father be right along with him

saying that. So, you know. So, yeah, when the Sox won the World Series,

they. They did it the year after my father died. So I

call that World Series my father's cruel joke from beyond the grave

of the soccer series. You know,

that's frustrating as hell, man. It is what it is, you know?

Oh, my gosh. X. What. What do you. What you were watching,

man? I've been watching a lot of stuff that

I've already seen a billion times.

But I will say this. I did watch a movie called the

Coffee Table. You've heard of that?

Yeah. It's supposed to be like this incredibly extreme,

dark sort of horror movie with a very

realistic tone.

I just hear you depressed when it's over. This is what I hear about that

movie. I think a lot of people

probably would be. I laughed my

ass off during that movie. I thought it was incredibly funny.

And I don't think I'm supposed to think that.

I think that I'm supposed to think that this is just.

God, once you. It's bad and then

you think it can't get worse, and then it gets worse and

terrible things just happen to these people. And I'm by myself,

of course, so I just. I'm laughing out loud. I think it's

absolutely hilarious. If you have a very

dark sense of humor, then you'll probably enjoy

the coffee table. It has nothing to do with coffee.

Well, not much, but yeah, I recommend

that if you're fucked up enough to enjoy something

like that. Oh, I'm in.

Yeah, I mean, it's just from the. Just from

the get go, from the married family bitching at each other to

everything that happens after that with terrible sales people

and weird kids that live down the hall who are not the

kids in the hall, which is difficult. For me to wrap my head

around. Yeah, no Kevin McDonald, then you were telling

me. Yeah, no Kevin McDonald, no Scotty Thompson, nothing. It's terrible.

But, yeah, definitely. Check that out.

Cool. I watched a bunch of stuff, and I'll talk about a

couple things. I was going to take my last. My last appearance on the show

and watch some new stuff.

Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice I saw. And that's a

film that people are praising. And I just

don't see it as far as like, hey, this was so great.

And you know what? I like this, this and this.

I don't share these feelings with Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice.

And I like part of it. And the rest of it you

can keep. And it is like the Ritz crackers

of legacy sequels. It's only good because

you waited 35 years for it. Okay, this is why.

Come here. It is. You waited 35 years for it.

And this is why people are saying, oh, it's so good,

because there's a lot of flaws in it, and it's a little too.

Little too late for me. And they replaced Harry

Belafonte with MacArthur Parker. They fucking ruined it.

And I don't like that very much.

Was it the original version or the Donna Summer version?

I don't know. They sing it as a cast at the end of the movie.

Oh. Oh, goodness. Okay, I retract my question.

Cause spoilers. Lydia makes a deal with Beetlejuice to save her

daughter, played by Jenny Ortega. And in return, she said she would marry

him finally. And this is a wedding scene where they all seem MacArthur

Park. And it's not. It just sounds terrible.

It's not the acting, it's the execution. So after

that, I watched him tried and true Tim Burton stuff that

I love because he'll bitch so much about the Dark Shadows movie that I

love. I watched that and enjoyed the fuck out of that. Because one

cruel thing that Beatrice. Beatrice does is they ruin and

they waste a Monica Belichick performance of that movie by

just, like, having her hang around and then, you know,

go away and die unceremoniously.

Now, if they would have done her. If you don't. He did. Oh, what's her

name? Not even as the

Dark Shadows. Help me out here.

Okay? Which movie.

In Dark Shadows? The one that's after.

After Barbie or Sex or whatnot.

You know, I forget the actress's name. I'm drawing a

blank. Yeah, they do Eva. What's her face?

Eva Longoria. No.

Eva Gabor. No, she's in Nightmare. No, that's Jaja.

That's in Nightmare 3. This could drag

me that though. So here we go. IMDb. Yep.

Yep. There's Duchess. Eva.

Green. Yeah. So even green. A lot better in Dark Shadows than they did Monica

Balloon. They just. They just wasted one of the

most beautiful French creatures on the planet who just turned 16. You wouldn't

know by looking at her. Yeah,

that's your biggest trespass there. If you don't be able to use but on the

Dark Shadows. Good stuff. Fun.

Not like the soap opera. Really hot goes. It's all done

for comedy. Go and watch the Cooper woman

killing hippies. It's. It's all fun. You know.

Hang on a second. Just get out of here, bro. You're causing me to

egg cat. Go. Christ. Yeah, you all

right, back to reality here. I watched something me and X both watched. I watched

Cuckoo and Oh yeah, that's a new we're

talking about. And it was enjoyable. It was different

way about it. Get too much with the plot away. But I'm much torn like

most people to where the ending was kind of like. It was kind of.

Kind of lays there. And it's a film about a

girl in her family who. Who moved to this community and.

And yeah. Yeah, she's has experiments

done and has a really interesting plot point to the.

To the point of. It's very. It's. It's. It's very different.

And I don't want to give it away, just put it that way.

What do you think, X? I'm sorry. Excuse me.

Sorry. I was about to choke, but I didn't. Oh,

aren't you all lucky? I think it

does have an interesting plot. I'm not completely sure that I understand

everything that happened,

but I will say this freaking Dan Stevens

can pretty much do anything.

As far, if I'm correct, he's. He's a British dude.

But think about it. In Abigail, he had like that tough,

almost Boston accent. And in this one,

he's a very convincing German. So his

accents are just fantastic. And I love watching him

in anything. He was pretty much the high point

of Cuckoo for me. Yeah, I'm not

sure I quite understood what the fuck happened in that movie.

I just kind of watched. I went, okay, I am

making connective leaps without any

real verification that what I'm thinking is correct.

I'm okay with that. I have

lost everyone. I'm here. Oh, okay.

I am on mute again. There we go. By the way,

I watched Strange Darling because that's a film everybody else is talking

about. And don't spoil that for me. I've heard it's amazing. I am not

going to spoil anything. But it runs like very non

linear, you know, like. Like a Pulp Fiction does. It runs in

chapters but they tell the chapters in different order

than that. They go obviously. But it all, it all comes together

in plot because it's one of those things where there's a killer

and you see dead people around and you don't know who the killer is.

But you're very, you're very surprised when the turn

happens and Kyle Gner is not an

untolerable in that movie. He. That's probably the wrong word I'm looking

for here. But people say they hate Kyle Gner and bad

things happen to him in horror films much like Justin Long. And he

doesn't suck in this movie. But you're wondering why a

killer would carry a gun. And you'll find out why a killer is

carrying a gun in this movie. And I know again no

spoilers here. It's just enjoyable.

And I talk about this. Suzanne Lurie shot by

a first time DoP. Can you guess who that is?

X a first time Director of photography.

Yeah, it's hopefully someone related to Dean Cundy.

If somebody you've known it for from TV and movies since forever.

It's Giovanni Rabisi. Yeah,

no kidding. I did not know that.

I found that. I found that out from somebody else and I was like well

I. I respect this film more now because it's. It looks great.

It's shot in 35 millimeter and it says it right at the beginning that

it's shot in 35 millimeter. And just,

just a good time until the end. And you know,

nobody has a happy ending except for you know,

the person at the end of the movie. Put that way.

Okay, there's a lot of dead bodies in

this movie. Like yeah, this one, this one won. And then you know.

Yeah but strange darling,

listen to the hype. I'd say go, go check it out.

Other stuff I've re watched. Oh, I have to

mention this. I watched Rollerblade for the first time. The notorious Roller

Blade movie. Post apocalyptic,

full frontal nude women or nuns I guess

in a wasteland fighting other gangs looking for a

crystal or something. And there is an awful puppet in the movie.

This made about thousand dollars. But I can't stop watching.

It appears like six of these movies. I had no idea.

But I may have to go watch more of them because it

was terrible. But you know, stuff kept happening to say hey,

I'll keep Watching this, you know, so it's strange.

You know the Rollerblade series, There's a roller. Rollerblade 7

and then there was a roller gator which may be connected, I'm not sure.

Yeah, this is a low budget movie and it

shows, it shows. But you know what? If you want to see

fully nude girls praying to some weird smiley face triangle

God with, with nuns, go check out Rollerblade

because you know, they probably. So it's

Witchcraft on wheels. I don't even know, man, because oh

my God, it's, it's so strange. And I think it's

important to give like plot points that the Rollerblade. But they have,

they pray to some weird God that,

that when you smile, when it flashes light and a

smiley face comes up on the screen, it heals

any wound you could possibly have. And nuns

and fully nude women, they're probably to get paid to be there. And so

the way I feel bad for them because they didn't get paid for it to

be in the movie probably. Maybe some, some spam on the craft service table perhaps,

you know. Well, I mean you had me at nuns.

Yeah, Wasteland nuns.

Yeah, that's about it for me though. I,

I watched more but I couldn't tell you what that is.

But tonight we're, we're going, we're going in

with one X's favorites for sure for one of these films

about, you know,

insubordinate humans who, who are made of parts and

get sacrificed in unique ways with

parts. The Clonus Whore and Logan's Run.

They're very different but at the same time kind of the same in certain

ways. But yeah, that's what we're doing tonight.

And we'll start in order, I believe.

No, let's start out over. We'll talk about cloners horror first, I think because this

is 79 Logan 77 or 76, I forget.

Let's see. Yes, 76. 77 was the Logan's

Run TV show that I ever watched.

Okay. The Cloners Horror 1979. You'll hear more about that

after this trailer.

Something frightening is happening at a secret place

called Clonus.

Will the truth ever get out?

You all know what I stand for. I think it's time that

I started paying back this country for some of the good things it's

given me.

It's all very step by step standardized is practical.

Lena. We're being watched, mister. What are you talking about,

Richard? Why would they watch us? For what reason? I don't

know.

Lena. There's something Strange happening here that we're. Not allowed to know about.

There's something wrong. We've been busted into Clonus.

A place where science and nightmare merge.

What are you worried about? It can't get away. Where no one can

escape the horrors that await them.

Suppose Churchill or Roosevelt had been able to live for nearly 200 years and

still function for the world. Or stop. Or Hitler.

No. No.

Please, no.

Your ear is just like mine. I just noticed.

Notice?

Even I'm expendable if it means keeping clones alive.

Don't stop at nothing to keep it a secret.

Because at Clonus, the only thing they don't use

is the scream. Peter Graves Dick

Sargent Timothy Donnelly Paulette

Breen Keenan Wynn parts

the Clonus Horror. The motion picture that

will steal your heart and your liver

and your kidneys and your eyes and your limbs.

The clones horror from 1979.

Your cheaper plot synopsis is this. In a seemingly perfect

society, one member discovers the truth about the outside world

as well as their ultimate purpose. This is directed by Robert

S. Fiveman. Like. Like Slap

Me five, I guess. Strange. A five

son. Yes. This is how it feels to chew five sun.

Was a producer a lot of things, but didn't direct many things.

Produced In Search of for five episodes. That's probably the biggest thing that you look

at right now is five In Search of episodes.

So didn't do much and that's kind of a. Yeah, I don't even know.

Written by Ron Smith, Bob Sullivan and Merle A.

Schreibman. I'd like to find out more what they did because I think this film

is very interesting. Stars Peter Graves.

Where are we at here? Eileen Deed shows up as Dana.

Yeah. Yes, indeed. Tim Donnelly as Richard.

Where we had here Dick Sargent, not Dick York as Dr.

Jameson. Had to say it like that, you know, because. Yeah,

one's just called Clone. There's more people in this film.

We'll talk more about this in the Milken win. I'm sorry. How can I forget

as Jake Noble in this movie. Your acting

royalty in the film. Keenan Wynn Clonus

Horror Again. I enjoyed the

hell out of this. I'll kick it to Suzanne first and find out what her

thoughts are in Clonus Horror. Oh God. This is

one of Pat's favorite movies. So of

course I had to dive in. I love this movie.

What they did with what they had to work with and

just such a low budget, but managed to get everything

across. Let me just start

off with evil Dr. Dick Sargent.

He pulled that off. I was not expecting him to Be

that evil. I love

that. The idea that rich people farming

their own clones to eventually replace their

parts as they got older. And the big

conspiracy theory, it was, it was done

very, very well. I love it. But the

only. I only have one issue with this movie. The pacing

is a little off because you start off on the happy note,

then you get like the real horror of the thing.

A little bit of happy. Some do try to figure some stuff out.

Then it gets really super exciting. Then it kind of slows down a little bit.

It's just the. That's the only problem I have with the movie is the

pacing. But I just love

the, the idea. And you guys all know about the,

the seven figure settlement that DreamWorks had to pay out with

this movie, right? Yeah, because of that. The island,

that Michael Bay. Yeah. I mean, did they actually think that they were

going to get away with it? It's Michael Bay, bruv. He can do anything.

Yeah, well, green films. Well, yeah, well that,

that's pretty much a given. But yeah, I guess it was an undisclosed

seven figure settlement over the copyright infringement.

I think there were over like 100 points of similarity.

I mean, did they think all of the principles were dead? This is the one

thing that I have a hard time wrapping my head around, that they.

No one would notice it was a movie that nobody had ever

seen. Did they really truly believe this?

But I put Michael Bay up there with James Cameron.

Just horrible human beings. But the

thing about this movie, the parts that are

really intense are so incredibly intense.

You don't think certain things are going to play out the

way that they do. I mean, I really.

Okay, spoilers coming.

Everybody dies. Face it,

it's not a happy ending. You have to. I've always

felt a little bit, you know, let down by

the fact that everybody dies. They are

ruthless to keep their secret, but, you know,

they've got the most powerful backing in the world behind

them. So yeah, they probably can get away with it until something

got leaked. And you don't know any more about that because

the film ends right there.

It's one of those movies. Every once in a while I think to myself,

well, maybe if it was made in more capable hands. Well,

it was made again and it was truly awful.

I think maybe we just leave this one alone and just let it be

what it is. You just, it.

You get kind of caught up in the drama of,

you know, these clones, they really.

That's all they are. They mostly lobotomize them,

but you know, they're still people

at the hearts. And then they unceremoniously.

Hey, you're going to America. Cool. Enjoy your party.

And. Oh, here, drink this. And you

do get another 30 seconds of sheer horror

before you go to sleep. It was a good twist, like, hey,

you're gonna go. You're soon on a foreign land. Hey, you're going to America.

And then America is the lab. I guess

they go to go get preserved. Oh,

yeah. It's just. There's something just

is so incredibly intelligent and well thought out

about this movie that it really. It's. It's almost

forgotten. And I did. Look, this is the only

movie that five Cent ever directed.

Yeah. And it's so. Well, I mean, you have Peter Graves there.

Just. You have like. You don't have a huge, big money

cast here, but you've got people that

are incredibly talented. I mean,

Keenan Wynn. This man has been acting long. Was.

Was acting for Jesus. Decades, until he got

blacklisted for a while. And it's.

It's so well put together and it's such an

interesting topic. So, yeah, this one. This has

always been a favorite. I was gonna go

pull out my copy, but it was too nice out,

so I sat outside and ended up watching it on YouTube.

So it's easily available.

It's. It's a good movie. It truly is.

It just captures that, you know, I was

like, 70s sci fi. It's more. And this, you know,

the. It's. There's an intelligence behind it.

It's not mindless spaceships and laser beams,

which I really don't like. There is a science

behind it. So, yeah, this one's always been a big favorite

of mine. So. By the way my

mother would love the most is Tim Donnelly, the guy who plays Richard, our running

clone of this movie, did 100 turn 22 episodes

of Emergence of Emergency, the TV show. Oh, wow.

I'm gonna love that show. She loved her some Kevin,

I guess, you know,

X. What about you, sir? Let me. Let me just do.

Love me some Julie London from Emergency.

I'm sort of weird, I guess, in this way,

because especially in a movie like Parts

where I don't mean to look

for logic, and when I do, it's in the weirdest

freaking places. Like, can I accept that?

I don't know. I guess it's the University of Southern California

where the cloning compound is where everyone

just wears track suits that looks like Susan Anton in

Golden Girl. I can accept that. I can accept the fact

that they will take clone parts and ship them off to rich

people. It's like, you know, for the cost of a cup

of coffee a day, you too could have a spleen waiting for

you. Brand new. Should yours go awry.

I can accept that. I'll take it. What I can't

understand is the President elect of the United States

just roaming around suburbia and even

on a boat with no Secret Service protection.

How is that possible? That man would have guards

up his. Up his bung hole. He can't just

scoot around unnoticed. That's the

stuff that bothers me about this. Also, you were talking

about how the scenes or intense. And you know what? Some of them

actually really are. The harvesting of clone

parts is excruciating to watch. It's really

y. But once Richard

realizes that something is amiss,

once he learns where Milwaukee is, which is really the

key to the entire history. Oh, my God,

Wisconsin. And solved everything. There is more running

and more hallways in this movie than in

Shakma tubes,

underground corridors,

streets. It's just. They may

as well have been, you know, sponsored by

Reebok or something. There's just. It's so athletic.

That. All being said, I really don't hate this movie.

I think it's funny, Suzanne, that you were like, oh, no,

everybody dies. And I'm like, suzanne, you love the 70s.

You understand that is the bleakest decade

for filmmaking so far. If anybody had

lived, I would have been disappointed.

Oh, I know. But that's, I think, what makes it drives

the point home. And that last scene,

it's just. It happens

that when he's announcing his run for presidency,

even though we all know what happened, and you just kind of

sit there with your jaw hanging out there, even though you

didn't. There's.

How can I put this? He's there.

It's an inevitability. Yes. And then at the

very last second, where they cut the movie.

So what can you tell us about this? And holds up the tape.

So it's just. But that's.

Like I said, I think if it did have a happy ending, I'd hate it.

I'd absolutely hate it. But, you know, that's in line with other political

movies of the 70s as well. So, like, you know,

all the President's Men ends with sound

bites and a teletext machine.

The Parallax View ends like that, Winter kills ends

like that. So it's very much in that vein

of we are in control and you are fucking not,

and we can do anything we want. Oh,

yeah. But, yeah, I don't hate the movie.

There are parts where I probably shouldn't have laughed as loudly as I

did.

Okay, I. I have to admit there is one scene where I just kind

of. I. I chuckled when

Lena is standing in the window when he makes his way back home.

Funny man. Funny, but it's creepy,

but kind of funny at the same time because she's got like that,

that goofy ass permigran and you know what

happened to her. And he's. He's just a

clone. He is only a clone and doesn't. Doesn't quite.

He doesn't know. But it just is weird that she's.

It's. It's like I said, mannequin, like, but you know, you know, being lomotomized,

that's kind of what happens. She's like, they adorably gave

her cerebral palsy and she's making that face right there, you know?

Yeah, she's got that clone lazy eye,

which happens after a lobotomy, I guess. Oh, yeah.

No, I don't know. Feel free to cut this

out. I'll just tell you guys. But the fate of the nobles

of Keenan Wynn and Lorene Tuttle

when their house fucking blew up. I was not happy.

I laughed so hard. I'm so sorry.

I thought that was so funny.

Oh my God. Just out of nowhere, ha ha.

We're having a good time. Isn't it a lovely after.

She's getting frisky with them. Like, my God, let the man get it on one

more time. Turn on abc. The wheel is on,

honey.

So, yeah, that made me laugh. But yeah,

very good. Good bleakness, good seventies sci

fi political drama, sort of combined.

I really hated how the clones were not

educated a lot, so they all sounded like supreme

dumbasses for the first 45 minutes of the flick. I know what's

necessary. It still got on my nerves. And yet I'd

watch it again. I'm over here nitpicking of a movie that I would watch in

a heartbeat. So never mind me, I've just undercut everything that

I've said about the movie. Except, oh no, Pat wants to

watch it this weekend. So I'm like, yeah, I'll watch it again. We'll watch

our good copy. And not the shitty one that's on.

YouTube, like, you know, in the colony live, you know,

where, by the way, this review is brought to you by Adidas. Because, you know,

those track suits are just banging throughout this whole film. And yeah,

they're supposed to be, you know, sort of mindless because they're not supposed

to think about, you know, Their situation or what's going on.

And while they all have the same almost

like cattle tags on their ears, that's what it reminded me of.

Like when you tagged that tag, your head of cattle. Yeah, those clips,

those little clips. And yeah, that's supposed

to question anything. So I can see why they kept them pretty mindless.

But colonoscore, man, first time watching

me again to tail into

the 70s. I really enjoyed myself, you know, pretty much

the whole time with this because, you know, you find out,

you don't wait like an hour for like a slow burn to find out what's

going on here. You kind of find out like right away,

like, hey, you're going to America. They have a whole party for him and then

next thing you know he's sitting on a table getting examined.

And here, you drink this. And by the way, we're going to seal you

for freshness. And then, you know, that's basically what they do.

They. They freeze dry them in those bags. And Neil diamond

tried to warn us about this.

With what? I'm sorry, of coming to America. Oh yeah,

they're coming to America today. In bags

on the corridors and on the planes to

go in a Ziploc bag.

Wisconsin. It reminds

me of the first episode of Erie,

Indiana. If you guys know what that show is. It was a Joe Dante

production. It was on NBC to where they had twin. The twins on

the show and the weird mother. And the way they

stayed young was the mother was a Tupperware, A Tupperware salesperson

and she had giant Tupperware to keep her and her sons preserved.

And this was the weird thing about the episode. And you know,

that's. That's brilliant television. I love, I love Erie,

Indiana. I digress. That is one of the only

episodes of Erie, Indiana I ever watched.

Fun. It's fun of this film.

I like the idea of this whole organ harvesting thing like Rick

got money or well, in case. In case of Keenan when

his brother has money to. To make him a clone. Because I

love that reveal when it finally makes it to. I think

we call it his person or his somebody and

it turns out his other part.

And yeah, you had that reveal and just

evil being connected everywhere. I love that this.

They had this whole Santa Clara, California vibe

to where, you know, the guy that's. That's driving the duck pepper truck is

as connected as the guy walking down the street to say, hey,

we see this car going down the road here and it's going

this way. And I don't know what dream of Dreams. This is the most

unrealistic thing about the film for me is that Oldsmobile thinking it was.

It was gonna catch a Lotus if that Lotus just like went like full speed.

You know, I don't understand that logic. But, you know, but I'm

here, I'm hearing over there. But the only real crime

for this film, for me altogether, is that I wish there was more of it.

I wish, you know, this was a 70s, like miniseries or like

this was based on a series of books that, you know, I can go explore

the books maybe, but I don't think it was that crazy successful

to say, like, kind of like V was where V had like a series

of novels that you could check out and.

But yeah, I wish there was more of this and more. More exploration

of this world of, you know, creating parts for the future,

spare parts, if you will, and just. Yeah, I know

the characters are mindless, but they're written that way.

They're not supposed to guess where they are, what's going on.

So the fact that they're, they're all. They're all kind of dense

and stupid and just like running, you know, not free thinking.

Because there's that one scene where the guy says, well, I just didn't want to

win this time. They feel like, oh, you know, this, this one's broken,

you know. But yeah,

good stuff. The writers I mentioned didn't

do much besides this, so I

don't know why that is. Maybe again, it wasn't very successful,

but I, I enjoy my time with it. It's very 70s

going into the 80s. So I,

yeah, I would watch this again. Let's go with that X

File thoughts, sir? I have a point that I can't prove.

I remember, or I think I remember this

movie being broadcast on NBC.

I may be conflating that with Colossus, the Forbid

project, but the interesting thing to me about the Clonus horror

is when that president elect knight Peter Graves gets up

to make a speech, the only microphones there are NBC

microphones. So like, no other network cared

about what this guy had to say.

And by the way, I never even noticed that I

like the end of this movie because, you know, the whole, the whole plot,

you know, is dependent on this tape. And this tape they still.

And the fact that, you know, they got, they got the word out before

their, Their untimely demise. What was.

Was pretty cool. By the way. Tell us about the Clonus thing because

you know what's gonna happen next. Either the company is fucked

or they got a move, location or whatever.

West World has fallen, if you will.

I think the end is perfect for me.

I think it's great. No, I agree. I think if there were a sequel,

they should have told the clones they're going to Mexico. That's how part

two should have been. Yeah, I'd watch this again.

It's fun, even if it's a little long in the tooth for me.

Like I said, so much running, so much

non natural fabric. But yeah, it's a good time.

Cool. Suzanne, is that for me, my only big

problem with the movie is. And you both have pointed out the

same things, the pacing is terrible.

It's. There's not really any even keel.

And I don't think that was done to keep everybody unsettled.

I think it was done because these are,

from the looks of it, a lot of first timers, they didn't quite

understand how to pace because there

are a lot this,

there are certain things they could have expanded on that they

didn't and certain things that they expanded on that they

really didn't need to. I still, once again, this is,

this is way up there. I just love, I love

how bleak it is. I love the ending.

I, you know, it's, it's always just going to

be that for me. I can't even count how many times I've watched it.

And apparently I have to watch it again this weekend, which I'm done with.

So, yeah, this is, it's great.

Bleak 70s sci fi. You know you're watching

a 70s movie when the title graphic has

no capital letters. Nope.

They couldn't afford them. No, no, too much money.

Didn't have room for that in post production.

No. Yeah, it's like Suzanne said, I think in

more capable hands, you know, this film and not

that I did enjoy time with it because I think it was, I think it

was shot very well. You know, the actors,

they had, you know, did what they could with what they had.

I think, I think it's paced

incredible because I feel, I feel the desperation like

through most of the movie. So I'm not bored with it. I checked

the time one time, it was like an hour and I couldn't believe that it

was an hour in already and only like 30 minutes to go. But I like

in like a, like a Don Siegel's hands, you know,

so somebody like that, this film, it could

have been like a much bigger production and that,

that intensity would have been exponentially more for me.

But yeah, I, I enjoy your time with it though. I would watch this again,

like you Guys said go, go find it on YouTube.

I found it on a friend's video. Video server, but that. That's. I digress.

But the clones horror from 1979.

Check it out. Next up though, is the true blue

classic that I Know X has been shopping at the best to talk about.

So we. We programmed it in a show. And I know,

and I know, and I know, and I know. It's Logan's Run from

1976. Delete, delete, delete. No, that's wrong.

That's Matt Hardy. Renew, renew, renewal. Right to the trailer.

MGM puts the future in the palm of your hand.

This is the 23rd century, where sophisticated technology

has created an automated world of wonders.

A world beyond imagination. Until now.

It is filled with beauty and the vitality of youth.

Pleasure is the way of life.

But in the 23rd century, life lasts

30 years. Not one day less, not one

day more. When the crystal in the palm of your hand

flashes its final message. Your time is up.

But there are a few rebels who run in search of

sanctuary. Logan,

trained to enforce the law, dares to become a runner

himself. He and the girl who loves him become the

hunted when they set off on Logan's Run,

a fantastic adventure through the 23rd

century.

The 23rd

century will be here sooner than you think.

Coming this summer. Logan's Run.

Logan's run from 1976, directed by

Michael Anderson. He gave us some cool stuff,

including Doc Savage, the Man of Bronze,

Orca, of course, because you gotta love Orca and

some other. Some other good, good stuff. But those two things alone should

say, hey, this guy. This guy's aces in

your book. Writer David Z.

Like Goodman, I forget what he wrote. Michael F.

Nolan. But I know George Clayton Johnson because he helped write a

good bulk of the Twilight Zone original series. So that's. That's where I know George

Clayton Johnson from.

Stars Michael York as Logan 5.

Right, right. X doesn't say. Yeah.

Logan 5 and Francis 7.

First name and number. Jenny Agitor.

Looking so good in this movie as Jessica. I forget.

Who cares? Richard Jordan as

Francis Number seven. Apparently,

Roscoe Lee Brown unceremoniously plays bot

in box in this movie. I'll talk about that in a

minute. Farrah Fawcett shows up

as Holly with all her faucet do. And then her

hair goes flat. It's very Sad. Michael Henderson

Jr. As Doc, the guy that's gonna change his face.

And the king of kings of this movie,

in my opinion. Mr. Peter used to. You sent off

one of those guys that played Doctor who. As old man.

Old man who has many cats. And we'll talk about that too,

I'm sure. I'll start

with Suzanne, because X is going to gush on this and I'm fine with that.

But go for it, sue. And tell us your thought on

Logan's Run. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I really,

really, really got. I. You gotta go to X. You got to

ask gush on Logan's Run, so I know you want to. Deep breath.

Holy damn, I love this movie. It is so good.

It is so fun. And let me tell you one reason why. It's very personal

for me. In the 70s, of course, there were a whole bunch of

sci fi blockbusters that came out. Logan's Run

I was not allowed to see even though it was

rated pg. But my parents wouldn't let me

watch Logan's Run, which is very disappointing. I wanted to go

to the theater and see this. The next year,

Damnation Alley came out and I was allowed to

go see it. And you know, every few years I go back

and I revisit Damnation Alley to see if I like it

and I just never do. It's just a terrible,

disappointing movie. That's the highest,

highest point of respect I can give that is that there are pictures and they

do move. So when I finally got to see Logan's

Run, it was worth the wait.

This movie has a lot to say about a lot of different topics. But most

of all, it looks fantastic. We get to

see. And it's obviously a miniature when you

see it from a distance, but this great domed

city and shuttle cars going

through clear tubes like. Like a habit trail for

humans. And there are fountains and there are

pink lights and they have their own government

sponsored belief system. And there's

a cutoff date for how old you can be.

It's. There are a lot of topics here that are

very heady, let's put it that way.

Michael York as Logan 5 is

really, really good because he starts off as a complete

government guy. He's an assassin.

Sorry, what's the term they use? They retire

people who try to escape. Sandman.

Yeah, yeah. Excuse me, he's a sandman.

And their guns turn people into piles of sand

that people who are on zero turn. Floating vacuum cleaners

come by and suck up off the floor of the mall. I think that's

how it's like a carnival. Just sawdust over puke.

And then, you know, Lenny with nine teeth comes over and just sweeps it up.

Same concept. Sorry, I'm getting ahead of Myself.

Please excuse me. Okay, so, big Dome City. But Logan

is a believer in everything that he

has been taught. And it's not until he receives

the tiniest, tiniest of clues

that he realizes that maybe things are

not all great in the domed city.

The people who reach 30 years of age get onto

this thing called the carousel. And they're dressed up in, like,

this crazy sort of hazmat suit meets corpse

paint. And they get on the carousel and it spins

around. And the idea is that if you make it

to the. I don't know, to the top of this void, then you

will renew and you are reincarnated and you will come back as

another version of yourself.

This movie made in 76. If you haven't seen it now, I'm sorry,

I'm about to spoil it for you. Fucking. Why would you not see

this? Logan learns that nobody

renews. Everybody dies. And these

people that he's been chasing are all trying to get to a place

called Sanctuary, where they can live past the age

of 30. And along the way, he picks up Jessica,

Jenny Agator, who is, like, in a. He finds her

in the Star Trek transporter version of Tinder,

and they hook up. Well, they don't hook up right away,

but they. They join together to get to Sanctuary.

So there's a chase because Francis, who is Logan's friend,

now has to chase Logan and Jessica. So he's got. It's the Sandman chasing

the Sandman. And the further they

get into the city, the more they realize

how much they've been lied to. They're, you know, weird little angry

children who live on a lower level called Cubs. And they have knives

and they have. And they have bad teeth. And they've obviously gotten

an advanced script for the warriors. And they all wear vests

and weird shit. And then Kerry's gonna talk

about this later, they run into a robot

called Box. And I think the reason that he's called

Box is because it looks like he was

constructed out of cardboard boxes that were covered with aluminum

foil. And then his arms are just, know, dryer duct.

He looks like something that a fourth grader would make for a science

fair. But he's got all of these people

who've tried to make it a sanctuary frozen.

And he's like, proteins and greens from the

sea. He's, like, very proud of his job as a. As a food

processor. So there's a lot of. There's a lot of stuff going on

here. It's 1976.

The film stock that Anderson chose is

very Glossy. This movie has sort of a

sheen to it. It doesn't quite look like a

video recorded television show, but it's bright and it

pops and stuff like that really comes out like in the

Dome City when they go through the, you know, the sex shop

and everything is in slow motion and there's pink smoke coming

down from the roof and everybody's doing the milkshake

and it's just a slow motion kind of

odd journey through the second level

of Dante's disco hell. I realize

that if you haven't seen the movie, I'm not making a damn bit of sense.

So let me say this. We are dealing with

the topics of ageism and

bodily autonomy. We are dealing with corporate religion

and we are dealing with.

That's what I'm looking for. I think we're dealing with freedom

here. I think it's a movie about finding your own way and

being who you are and doing that

regardless of what anyone else tells you to

do. I don't want to give away the complete ending, but it's.

It's satisfying for sure.

And I have to stop talking, though, because I've lost complete track of where I

was going. So. Yay. Now your turn, Suze.

Okay, now this is. I agree with you.

I said I'm not a huge sci fi fan, but there are certain types

of sci fi that I hold very dearly.

I like cerebral sci fi and this

truly counts. I've always just.

I agree with you. It is absolutely stunning to

watch. There's not a wasted frame

in the entire movie. Everything is

there for a reason. And I

also. What I find interesting is the fact

that, you know, Box man froze all, what was it,

10:56 of the runners. It's like they

almost encouraged them to run. So it's a food source.

It has to be a food source. So it's Soylent Green.

I was just about to say that. It is the Swanson TV dinner version

of Soylent Green. Yeah.

And it's also on top of that, you have to admit, it's a bit of

an adventure film. Once they

get away and they're trying to make their way through this terrain,

they don't know what to do. It's. It's. They're. They're experiencing temperature

shifts that they've never experienced before. The freezing cold.

And at least they were smart enough to find the skins and try to keep

themselves warm with those. But how many people probably

died there? But I mean, the thing about him being a Sandman,

but he was a little bit wiser where combat

was concerned, where probably most of the runners were

not because he was of a more law enforcement

mentality. And this is a very

satisfying movie. And it's like Carousel.

It's, it's one of those things. It's. I absolutely do not

want this explained to me. But they

all of a sudden they just kind of pop.

There's not really any. Are they being

electrocuted? Are they being what? I have no idea

why. That's just one of those little points that my brain is just like what's

actually happening here? So it's

just one of those exploding. Barbed wire match of death.

Yes, it is perfect. The exploding barbed wire match

of death. Love it. And it's.

There's nothing, there's very little that

you can say take against this movie.

So my dog is sitting here flapping our tail and

making me laugh. Once again, perfect casting,

perfect direction. They even got

an Oscar for this for I think, visual effects,

for special achievements.

There's, it's, it does have a lot to

say. I think it's, it's one of the more perfect of the dystopian

futures. And as you've seen that theme of being

basically that put down when you hit a certain

age, I mean almost a little bit in Clonus

because they get them into their most peak perfect physical condition

and then they're put into freeze dry baggies.

So it's, it's the obsession with

being young and basically not

spoiling the gene pool until you're 30.

It's. There's some. And you, you, you hit on

just about every topic. And this one truly

does. I, like I said, I think it's about one of the more perfect tales

of a dystopian future. And you're right about

the ending because the ending is. You feel it

in the fields. You really feel it. I was just

pissed off that he left his cats. But the cats will be fine. I'm sure

he'll want to go back to them or hey, you got lots of

young people now. They can start carrying them and maybe. They can start reading

some TS Eliot and name cats on their own.

Absolutely. It's just, there's just so,

so much air. It's. And it's. You're right about the way that it was

filmed. There's a sheen, there is a brightness

that, I mean, I wonder if it's done purposefully to

just to have that, you know, that youthful

glow. It's just a wonderful film.

And I mean, you have got some of the masters at work on This.

I mean, William F. Nolan, George Clayton Johnson,

my God, they wrote for Twilight Zone and

Dark Room. And I think William F. Nolan wrote Burnt Offerings

or he did the screenplay. They both did many, many screenplays

in the sci fi and horror genre.

Goodman co wrote Straw Dogs with Sam Peckinpah.

Oh shit. That's right. So I mean there's

absolutely no way that this combination could ever miss

with this. They hit all of the proper topics.

And like I said, the 70s were a strange time and

for being. For having its bleak moments.

It does end on a. In a very thoughtful

note. That's my thoughts anyway. I don't know.

Never say never about big names coming together and it not missing.

Oh, that's true. I've seen Heaven's Gate. Oh God.

How? Because I came out

because I am that old. So. Yeah, I mean,

just. What I meant was why?

Oh, dude. Because, you know, Michael Cimino

is a fantastic director. Great. I've. I had

more fun watching Roller Boogie than I did watching the roller skating scene in

Heaven's Gate. So. Oh God, Michael Shimono.

He literally had one movie that was good and

everything else was utter trash.

I mean, I wanted to like Black Rain so bad.

I actually tried to watch it about five, six times before.

I'm like, okay, yeah, I give up. This guy sucks.

He got obsessed with Asia for a while, didn't he? Because he had that movie

and he had Year of the Dragon with Mickey Rourke, didn't he? Yeah,

here, the dragons one I was thinking of. I don't think he did

Black Rain. Wasn't that one of the Scott brothers? No, I thought

he did that. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before.

Oh man. My turn. Logan's Run as

a film that I didn't see till I was in my way in adulthood.

And this was after I saw the film Free Enterprise,

which if you know, you know Eric

McCormick and Rafer Weigel, who's actually a sportscaster

for St. Louis. I think now he yes that

obsessed with Star Trek. But the in dream sequences

they have. Because what I'm doing is turn 30. Eric McCormick from. From Will

and Grace and dream sequences of

way to turn 30. And they have a whole Logan's Run fantasy of

Ray for Weigel chasing him as his friend. And they're running runner

the whole deal. And you know, that's how I know what renewal

was. And all that stuff was because of that movie. And then I saw

this movie and it's like perfect 70s sci

fi. I love the matte paintings. I Love the

model work. Like X mentioned where they get in the

clown car from hell, the bullet train from hell,

and you know, it's a model reactor, but it looks so fluid

that you don't care that it's a model. And yeah,

you said perfectly casted, perfectly written

really, because you kind of have like this whole again, again an idea of

that they've been lied to all this time and they live in this perfect

world where, you know, if you're a sandman, you have anything

at your disposal. You know, you let a perfect utopia where girls

will come to you on a video screen and then come for you if

you want them to and no one

gets married, you know, so it's perfect. No, no, no strings attached and

you know, world, you know, rupture, syphilis does not

exist at all either. They fix these problems. You know,

no burning sensations amongst the Logans and the Francises

and the Jeff and Jessica's.

But yeah, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a good ride.

You know, I, I would say if I had to pick one thing

that was wrong with it, it was like, it felt like it was a little

too long. Like they, like they explored too many action set pieces.

Maybe cut out the, the sex, the sex world,

the sex room thing where they're running from Francis.

Maybe cut that little part out. Maybe. I don't even know. But fun

stuff. And I mentioned a box

portrayed in a way by Roscoe Lee Brown,

one of the most, one of the more celebrated to me, African American

character actors at the time. What do they do

to them? I'm Golla Hooper X on you. They take his beautiful black visage and

they cover him with tinfoil and give him laser guns and

scream on plankton from the sea again,

going back to the green again. Made a plankton.

Plankton runs out soil and green is made out

of Logan's run people. And yeah,

that's, that's all fun, but you know,

when Peter used to have shows up, I. It gets all better for him because,

you know, anything, any little flaw that I saw in this movie is

taken away by this bearded fat man who's

very aware of what, where he is or what he's got going on, but has

a bevy of cats to talk to. Like, who needs people when I have cats?

That's human psychology right there. Who needs people when you

got cats? Because some people suck. See,

now the cat, you have to earn their trust, you know, and earn their approval.

He's done this for all these cats with three names. And I

think it's adorable. And I think it's. It's one

of the high points of the film and an important point of the film because

it shows that you can grow past 30. And when they bring him back,

it's a big revelation, everybody. But my thing with Logan's run is

there's still the powers that be that exist in this world.

What's going to happen when the revival happens and these people

possibly get shot dead and they just like, eat the old

man for dinner or something? I don't. I don't understand. You know,

this is happy. A very happy ending, but I just don't know

what. What's your end game, Logan? You know, because you're still. You're still just

one guy, you know, who's trying to convince everybody that this,

this is the way it really is. It's like a. It's like I

need a more bleak Twilight Zone ending to this to maybe feed

the sci fi soul. But at the same time, I'm happy with

the ending that we got because Peter Ustenhoff is

still alive and so are his cats. So, you know, it's a win.

Win for me. And you almost see full frontal

Jenny Agar when she's changing her clothes. You see the butt, you see the boobs,

but you don't see the bjj. You see everything else, though, so. Well, you got

to watch Walkabout for that. Yes, you do.

That's a bonus, though, a very sleek,

not wearing much Jenny Agator. And again,

great, great paired, great chemistry between the two characters.

Richard Jordan is insane as Francis is. Just.

Just like you want him to be, just on the hunt with this obsession

with, you know, getting the one that got away because, like, the whole

deal is he's all. There's certain points of the film where he comes

down on. There's other salmons. Oh, so you let him get away again, did you?

Blah, blah, blah, blah. They don't say.

Called a. You know, basically saying you fail. You're a

failure as a sandman if you don't get your man every time. But apparently

1500 have gotten away and became property

and food for. For bot to distribute our box to distribute,

apparently. And worst casualty of the film

is Farrah Fawcett's hair because when she go to

the. To the face salon, it's beautiful and feathered out

like Farrah Fawcett's hair is. But when she escapes in

with what were they called? The rats again, X the cubs

escapes in through the tubes. Yeah,

the cubs down there protecting the entrance

to Sanctuary. We traveled in tubes as Tenacious D

says what she did. And when she came out of the tubes,

you know, her hair was flat and very sad looking. So.

Yeah, that's a casual Dan Logan's Run is her hair.

And Carousel looking like a very funny.

Possibly inspired by what

was the show Circus with the stars in the 70s.

You know, those, those kind of outfits and flying in the air

and exploding like. Like black cat firecrackers and.

Oh my God, you're implying that John Davidson

was on Carousel. Maybe he was. He was the inspiration.

You know, that's. That's a huge thing for me just to try to

process right now with. Christy McNichol

and possibly. And Sarah Purcell.

Yes. Any more names too. That would have been a circus with stars.

Come on. So you got. They got this. You know, that's.

Oh, gosh. Yeah, Logan's Run.

Great sci fi fare from the 70s. You could do a ton

worse than Logan's Run in all of our

opinions. You could do Damnation Alley.

Why are you dissing George Pipard for? Man, I don't know if I like you

anymore. Like that. Yeah, I'm not dissing George Papard. I'm dissing Jan.

Michael Vincent trekking through the desert with Dominique Sandoval

running away from giant cockroaches, whatever the heck it was.

I have to watch this again. But anywho,

final thoughts, Suzanne on Logan's Run? No,

this is a great movie and you're right, it was Ridley Scott. But I was

thinking of Year of the Dragon, but I was saying Black Rain.

So yes, there is a bit of a kerfuffle,

but yeah, Logan's Run for me, like I said, it's one of the best

dystopian future movies. You can't really

do better. I'm sure you can if you

try, but it's up there. It's one of mine.

I thoroughly enjoy this movie and watch

it quite a bit. Unmute X

Score. It is one of my favorite

science fiction movies ever. And again, we've talked about how the 70s

were an incredibly bleak decade and you were saying

you needed to be a little bit more bleak.

I. I sort of disagree with that. I'm interested how

when the people who live in the dome city discover the existence

of the old man,

that does more than Logan ever could to

get across the point that they've all been lied to and maybe it's time for

societal reform. So I, I really like that ending.

But yeah, I think as far as dealing with heavy

topics without delving into them too heavily,

which is cool because you still want something to discuss when the movie is

over. But yeah, Logan's Run, just fucking top

notch. Love it. Yeah. Yeah, I like. I like the

realism of Clonus Horror a little more than I like Logan's Run.

Because in the world we live in today, who's to say they want

like organic 3D printers to where you could build hearts or kidneys

or spleens or anything or whole people for. For that matter.

But yeah, Logan's Run is. It's fine. It's fine. Fine fantasy.

I. I have a great time with it.

Yeah, poor Roscoe Lee Brown just reduced

to a tinfoil man. But I. I digress in

that situation. Something like I

was gonna mention. I forgot what it was now. God damn it. It was

a good point too. I remember. In an hour. But.

But no, this is. This is recommended to whoever wants to watch it. You know,

just go buy that Blu Ray, go buy that. That DVD from the pawn

shop to take a chance on it. It's just fun.

Go watch how gleeful the sandman are when they kill people. Go,

go, go check that out. Because they are really gleeful when they. When they

murder a runner, you know, and yeah,

red means stop. I'll stop here with this review

and we'll come back close out the show.

As of today, childbearing is here.

Oliver Reed and Geraldine Chaplin in a new film about a most

frightening future. Mommy. You're my mommy.

Doctor. I want to have a baby. That's impossible, Carol.

I know, but I want my own baby. You know that's impossible,

Carol. No one is allowed to have a baby for next 22

years. ZPG is a motion picture that

shows what can happen. What do you think you're doing?

One word from me and you and. Her and the baby have had

it. Baby, baby,

baby. This could happen

to you any day.

Any day.

Clear. Z. PG rated.

Pg.

I'm glad you're back again, guys. With. With you people on this great program.

And again, thanks. Lots of lessons for your holding down guys

and, you know, putting out quality kerfuffles for

all.

Yes. X. Any updates on Kiss the Goat Man?

No, I'm not putting pressure on you. No, no, no, no. It's.

It's fine. Again. Look,

I. I make no excuses. I'm trying to get it going.

You have a great excuse. Tell them why. Next. You know.

Yeah, I.

October is going to be a busy month and I don't know when we're

going to have time to do it.

Grandbaby's coming here in

about less than two weeks.

I'm classic. I'm happy. I'm excited.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I am too. I just realized that

it's going to take a lot

of energy to help our daughter out when that

baby comes home. Because, you know, we're not

those people who are just like, ah, new kid, cool, see ya.

Bye. You know,

not like that. Yeah, who do you want to have.

This way between that and.

You know. Our son's birthday is this month and our anniversary is this month.

And listen, if you can't,

I just need to say this because it's really just weighing on

me heavily. If you can find a way

to donate to any charity that is helping Western North Carolina,

please do it 100%. Yes. Hot Springs,

North Carolina is where Kuti and I have gone for our

anniversary almost every year that we've been married.

And it's destroyed.

There's just hardly anything left.

And it makes me very sad because,

you know, we kind of got to know the people that live there and work

there. We know who to look forward to seeing every time we go.

And it's just, you know, it's just mud and filth

and glass and they're like, yeah, if you're coming to help, please bring

ppe because we don't know what is in this water or

what's been left behind. So absolutely friggin

terrible. So if you can help, please help. And that

is almost all I have. Listen, if you were a reader,

go over to Biff Bam Pop. It's October. We're doing 31

Days of Horror. For some reason I've been doing think

pieces. I don't know why, I don't know why I'm in that mood,

but I've got stuff being published there this month

which some of you might enjoy reading,

where the theme is the devil made them do it. And you know, devil movies

are my favorite. So, yeah, check that out. If you have

4 or 5 minutes to read an article while you're, you know,

on the pot.

Yeah, that's cool, brother. We're all waiting Beta breath when kids

to go comes back and you know, I, I'm waiting

for it and I'm looking forward to listening to it. And you guys get to,

when you get to it, you know, people get busy, you know, and your,

your show is not our, our little goofing off ass show here.

I mean, you guys script and put

work into your show and takes into your show this,

this is a one take show, people. So. So I don't put work in like

X does on his show and hope you think are we

laying down. It's just X has a lot more to do in his show than

I ever will. So blood bless, bless him and Cootie for that, you know.

Yeah. Next episode, you may not hear these guys

on that episode because I'm doing a special project with John

Cross to get more content to you people into the folks at

the, the After Movie Diner. So if you're not subscribing to the After Movie Diner,

it is a podcast that's been around for 14 years now

and it's a great thing to,

to listen to John Cross talk about films and

do Steven Seagal impressions and Jean Claude Van Damme

impressions and you know, sing songs about Donald

Pleasance. Yes, that is a thing with him. He sings songs about Donald Pleasance.

He has two albums full of songs about Donald Pleasance.

Miscellaneous plumbing fixtures on anywhere you could find music.

Go, go, go check them out. But me and him are going to be doing

a celebrating master thespian Michael

Perry. Doing one film of his and then

mixing that with a. We celebrate physical media

with some obscure title that may or may not have had a Blu ray

or may or may not have a DVD or DVDs way out of

print. Just a saving celluloid for you guys to watch later.

We're doing a film you reviewed once for Biff Ben Pop, actually X

Seizure. We're doing Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone

flick. Oh my goodness, that's a wild movie.

So we're doing that for sure for our second feature. But that's like, that's the

vibe of the show is that we're doing Michael Parade joined because,

you know, if you look at his filmography, he's done some wacky shit.

And the very first one we're doing for that one is called

Dragon Fight. And this is a film where James Tong

and Charles Napier run like a running man type thing and

Michael pray decides he wanted to escape into the Arizona desert

and it's pursued by Mike, by Robert Zadar who is wearing

like chain mail and has a battle ax in the desert.

So it's, it's Michael Pere versus Robert Zidar of the desert whilst

one of them is wearing battle armor and wielding an ax.

So if you like that. I feel like I should be in. My bunk right

now. Well, if you like that,

go check it out on YouTube. It's, it's there somewhere. I, I think somebody

uploaded with like the whole thing. And then try to start to upload

again on the same file. So it says two hours is actually only an

hour and 23 minutes of film in which James

Hong and Charles Napier are running game on Michael Pere

and Robert Zadar as they fight each other in the desert,

you know, with battle axes. So that's

the plot to do dragon fight from 1990.

That's the very first Michael Parade Joe we were doing in Michael Parade Roulette.

Literally. I'm gonna make a list of 50 films and we're gonna hit the randomizer

and that is the next film that we will do. Probably something

you've picked up at the. At the video store or the grocery.

Grocery store. Video store. Remember those kids? The grocery store video store.

And just immediately put down and said, I gotta watch this movie. But we're

gonna watch it for you and talk about it.

Because, yeah, being John Cross,

he's a Michael Perry therapy. And it's gonna be fun.

So it'll be for that.

For that thing though I keep explained over explaining things

if you want episode here. Well, one episode first of all will

be on After Movie Diner feed is why it's important to follow and

subscribe to After Movie Diner. And the next episode will

be on this feed. So you have to look. Have subscribe to both feeds

and get some great content and to

get all the Michael Pere slash physical media celebration

goodness out of myself and John Cross.

Yeah. But next up on this show, you have a couple of options.

We should do some horror stuff. So I think we might come up with some

horror stuff to do for four October.

Something fun, something silly. Probably haven't decided

what that is yet, but it's going to come in your ears

sooner rather than later. He's like, you know,

Rhiannon, you know, ex's daughter doesn't drop

quadruplets on the world or something. And, you know,

unexpected triplets or something. You know,

she's just a little thing, guys. She doesn't need triplets in her life. Okay?

Just a little thing that would be. Very sad if she had triplets.

Okay. Oh, that's a lot. Oh, my gosh.

But that's it for this. This has been your cinebeef podcast where if you've

got beef, we all renew.

Have a good one, guys. There is no sanctuary.