The Butcher Shop

Hey beepers, this is Gary from

your SMB podcast. I would say your because I think the show

belongs to you guys. Because you guys listen and you know,

wish you guys chime in more and say, hey, I'd like to see this on

the show. But you know, you guys don't. That's fine.

This intro is for you people and my hosts.

I will not be there on the show you were about to listen to.

You notice we have a show last week is because I

mentioned before the end of shows that let

my mental health get in the way sometimes. And there's nothing I can really

do about this. There's lots of going on my life right now that I can't

control. And as a 43

year old red blooded adult male get

really frustrated, much like many of you do in

females too. And others get

frustrated and it makes you want to punch a wall.

So again, I can't perform and make jokes

for you people. And they

were gonna do this last week, but they didn't want to go on without me

so that they wanted to know how they're gonna go

on without Gary doing some kind of

sing songy voice for you people.

And because for some reason I sing on the podcast.

If you like it, you like it, if you don't, you don't. You think it's

charming, that's fine. It's something I do to get

to expel energy emotionally with

other folks words. Cuz I can't write for. For nothing.

But um. Yeah, what I figure,

why not bring in the show about football

that's not really about football. Because there's football

elements. This movie you guys about to watch and I listened to

you about, but um, a lot of it's, you know,

about like the politics of football and you know, the horn

dogs of football. In the case of one movie,

fucking just getting in old made

from different strokes and other things.

Talking to you, Burt. Yeah, I respect that.

My concern.

This will leave you on this episode cd

podcast to where I'll see you

guys called bars of a song. I enjoy

that. You know, I sound okay singing a karaoke so

you guys know it. It's an oldie but a goodie.

But I think it fits most of my nights at work

and beyond. So here goes nothing. A one

and a two and a three and a four. Today I'll

sing my songs again. I'll play the game and pretend.

But. All the words come back to me like shades and mediocrity

like emptiness and harmony I need someone to comfort

me. Cinema Beef podcast

they're fucking awesome. Cinema Beef podcast

homes. My homies. Deep down inside, I love them

every night. In most days. I don't know the

rest of the words, but I do know the rest of words. I just made

up that end part for you guys and my co hosts. And, um,

love to the beavers. Enjoy the show.

I'm sure Suzanne and X will knock it out of the park.

Like, I know they can keep saying, hey,

fuckers, you're capable. If I can't be there,

two of you guys roll on,

by all means. But I'll be back, um,

next time. I know what we're doing next time. But I'll be back next

time to. To, uh, hopefully be with you guys.

They've supported us over this past, I don't even know, decade or so. Eleven years.

I lost count, people. It's been a long, long time for the show.

Long, long therapy experience. But enough away

with the sadness. I introduce you the

latest addition edition of

the Cinebee podcast.

Bye bye now. Welcome to the Cinema

Beef podcast. I am X. That is

my name. And with me is my co host,

Suzanne. How you doing, Suze? Oh,

I am hanging in there. So grateful

that I'm haven't killed anybody yet. That seems.

That is a fair assessment. You will, of course, notice that our

normal host, Gary Hill, is not on this episode.

And, like, I don't know what he told you, I don't know what

kind of excuse he gave, but I will tell you what

I know. I heard that Gary is

currently touring the country.

Whippy. Jesus fuck. Whoopi Goldberg's part of sister

act of the Turing company. They're going around the theaters,

medium markets, small markets. So it's him and

a nun's habit. And the rest of the cast is made up completely

of tarantulas, which makes the singing not so

great, but it's sure fun to look at.

That's. That's what I've heard. What did you hear?

I hear that their website is amazing.

Lots of spiders crawling through the browsers. Yeah, man.

So we are going to deal with tonight's

show without Gary. But it's interesting because tonight we are

looking at a couple of football movies.

And what I actually know about american football, I could

probably fit into a thimble. So my

comments are going to be fun, I think. Are you a football fan,

suze? Oh, yes, very much so.

Good. Maybe you can help me out with some of these things. Like,

I don't know, the snap. Why is the guy

so close to the other guy's? Junk.

Well, and when they snap the ball, it's got to go directly

into the quarterback's hands. You can't, you know, going from too

far away. I mean, you can. There are some people that specialize in a long

snap, which means they can pretty much accurately throw

it directly from a longer distance into the quarterback's hands.

But from that is the focal point of the start of

the play. You realize how funny the phrase long snap is?

To me, it just sounds like you're in

the little house on the prairie and you're getting ready to.

To do something, and you're trying to take off those one piece

Mormon undergarments.

Let's do something that I don't think we've done for a while.

Have we done beefing and complaining about

things and what grinds our gears and or our beef

ground? I think we need to as

well. You're slightly disgruntled.

I am furious. Yes. So this would be fun.

Why don't we start with your slight annoyance or your. I'm sorry, your light disgruntlement.

Okay. I'm slightly disgruntled for a couple of reasons.

Got Covid again a couple weeks back. That was no

fun. I didn't like that.

I'm kind of.

Okay, let's get serious about this. One of the greatest

moral arguments that I've had

with myself in my entire life is,

do you separate the art from the artist,

or do you connect them so blindly that if the artist disappoints

you, somehow you stop engaging

with their product or with their art?

So this is in reference to two things.

This is in reference to Emily Armstrong being the new vocalist for Linkin

park, which I think she's great.

And people are upset because she is a scientologist

who allegedly supported the rapist

Danny Masterson. Now, she came out and she apologized for

that. And I'm not a. You know, I'm not a fucking

Grinch. I will accept someone's apology. Do you know what I

mean? And it also doesn't

hurt that that new song kicks so

much ass. It's just an incredible Linkin park tune,

and she sounds fantastic on it. So am

I supposed to not listen to that? Because,

you know, she allegedly believes that

basically war of the worlds was a true story, and maybe she

has battlefield earth on 4k. Uhd. I don't know.

I don't want to do that. I just want to listen to the music.

Am I supposed to be mad at Dave Grohl because,

you know, he fucked around and found out and had a

kid. We have

to get to the point where we stop looking at celebrities

and I guess especially rock stars,

as something beyond human.

They're just people. They just have a real high visibility

job. I know Dave's like, what? Like a couple years

older than I am? And now he's got

a baby girl. I mean, bruv, I don't envy that at all.

So good luck with all that and keeping your energy

up to chase that kid around. But I can't.

I can't be mad at someone for

being a human and fucking up and

making mistakes, especially when they do their

best to jump out and get in front of it and

tell people, this is what I'm trying to do to

make this work for me anyway.

Yeah, that's my mild disgruntlement.

I kind of do the same thing. For me, it's like a case by case

thing. It really has to depend on how much I

like the body of work. Like I said, I didn't realize

until after I really enjoyed the hell out of jeepers Creepers that

it was. I don't even want to say his name. Who was the

one who molested little boys in Clown House?

So from that point forward, if I see his name attached to anything,

I absolutely will not watch it. I will have zero to

do with it because that just makes me fucking sick. But I know

a lot of people are like, well, it's, you know, it's just. You just take

it for what it is. I'm like, I can't do that. When's the last time

you watched Rosemary's baby? Oh, I know about. Well, see,

once again, case by case,

I love Rosemary's baby. I love repulsion. I love

9th gates. And it's like he

gets a pass because his wife was murdered, you know? Oh,

is that what it is? I mean, it's incorrect

all around. It's a complete double standard.

And I realize this, and I know it's. I know it,

but I can. That doesn't upset

me as much as what I. Like. I said I wouldn't even say the guy's

name. It just. It makes me sick.

Well, I'm not going to say his name either. I'm, you know, I know who

you're talking about, but, no, we'll not say that man's name. He needs no

more publicity, especially not from, you know,

Cooper heads like us. Exactly.

So what did happen to you that makes you want to

bitch? Oh, God. Well,

I love it. Here we go. Here we go.

I'm just going to do this in sequential. We all know about my

shoulder pad surgery. Still. Still. It's a

slow recovery. I can move it a little. I can move it a lot more

than I did, but range of motion, we're still pretty damn

low. But that's okay. It's working. I'm back to doing stuff.

I went back to work. So I'm driving to pt a few

weeks ago, and some moron flying down

the road in a shit box pickup with a bunch of loose trash

rolling around in the bed. I look up, a giant

piece of wallboard drops right on my car. Oh,

my God, my windshield. Big, giant dent

in the roof of my car. Tons of dings

and scratches on the hood.

The trim is all screwed up. And I'm like, well, this is

just fucking great. That's not what I said in the car.

I wanted to turn around, go chase him down and beat

him to death on the steering wheel. But I'm like, no, I'm really not in

a condition to do that right now. So I got to my

doctor's office, which was only like two minutes away,

called the police. That couldn't really do anything,

obviously, could not do anything. Called insurance, took it in

the next day, got it in. It's in for repairs.

But I thank God for insurance. But now, because of this jackass,

it's costing me $500.

And right now everything is so expensive, even though

I'm back to work. Thank God. Yeah. Now I gotta deal with the freaking

clowns that I have to deal with at work. And some of

them just don't know how much they're pissing me off.

Actually, you know what? Let's take that back. They found out

how much they were pissing me off. And the fact that they can't just sit

there all day long if they're not gonna spend any money on drinks or gambles.

So now and then, even today, I go to the grid. I pick up literally

seven things. Seven damn things. And it's 70,

75 freaking dollars. How the hell are people

supposed to live? I've got 500 I've got to cough up. I swear to

God, I'm going on the ramen noodle diet again. I might, if I can find

something super cheap and on sale. Throw that into

the mixed. I don't know, it may just be ramen noodles, because that's.

It's. Everything is so fucking expensive. Gotta cough up to

$500 plus, you know, going to pt, that's like $20

every time I go and, you know, working,

you know, I used to make fairly decent tips on day shifts.

I'm lucky some days if I walk out with a dollar because of these two

jack wagons that think that they can sit there all day, watch they found out

that they can't. You go home. You'll be here for hours.

I literally said, don't you have somewhere else to go? Is there

a library? I'm like, yeah, you've got your phone. It's called the Internet.

Find one.

Like I said, it's. It's a business. You can't just sit there

and not spend any money, you know? I mean, if you wanted to

coke, believe me, I'm charging for that shit. Heck, yeah. I don't

like. But it's just. I'm back to this.

This frickin crazy shit at work. Thank God

we have some employees that don't suck as bad as other employees

have, so I guess that's good.

But now it's like, back to these morons that think that they can just sit

there. So, yeah, that's all that's been. Really, seriously?

That's been nipped. Nippy, bud.

Hopefully my car will be back soon because

they called when they. They talked to me today, it's like they have a backup

in the paint shop because they lost a paintbrush, their main

prepper. So now my car's backed up for four or five days because

of this, and I am having to ask people

for rides. This is not something I like doing. All my

friends, I've been pretty good. Whenever anybody's needed my help, I've always been there.

They've always been there for me. But it's that whole thing of having to ask

people to help me. I don't do that well. I understand

that completely. I don't do that well either. It's difficult.

It is. It's hard to ask for help even though I

need it. So, yeah, this is the boat I'm in.

Thank God. I have, well, alcohol. I have two good

beers tonight, and one of them I'm drinking now, and I will

have the Oktoberfest after this. Then it's. It's Coors light and

PBR. Fuck, yes,

I'm a Coors light boy. Yes, I am.

That is my psychotic hatred of the week.

Well, all right, then. That seems like a.

That just seems like a fine bundle of

bile. Just vitriol.

Spit it out. Like Linda Blair.

Yep. All acidyev. Yeah. Siddy and just

green and just melt its way through the hull.

Very, very good. So what do you. Have you been watching anything

lately have you had time to have, like, a recommendation or anything for us?

Oh, I did decide last night. It kept popping

up. I'm like, you know, I'm gonna finally break down and watch it. I watched

smile last night. Aha.

And I will say this. For the most part,

I did enjoy it, but it just reminded me a

little bit of a movie called Fallen with Denzel Washington.

It just, that's, that's the total vibe I got from it. You know,

the whole passing on the way it passed on. Yeah, it's, it was,

it was fallen. It was some good gore.

I wouldn't say it didn't, it didn't have, like, those creepy moments. They were so

reliant on jump scare that they didn't really take the

time to build up any real fear.

Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes total sense. You, Bob, have you

seen it? Uh, yeah, once.

Okay. What was your, what did you think?

I thought, this is getting a sequel. That's odd.

But here we are. So it's the sinister circle.

The cat's out of the bag. Where are you gonna go?

I don't know, man. I just, I didn't,

I didn't hate it, but I'm not gonna run back to it.

I'm not running back to it either.

It was cute, though. I mean, they gave away the best jump scare in

the trailer, which kind of pisses me off when they do

that. But, you know, the car door jump.

Oh, yeah. Oh, so good. Such a great visualization.

And of course, they blew it in the preview.

So if you've seen that, you don't

need to watch the rest of the film. No, you really don't.

They did the same thing with the conjuring me.

And I love ghost stories. Give me a good ghost story. That is like,

that's my favorite type of horror. I love ghosts.

And they gave everything away in

the trailer. You knew what was coming to

at the turn of every corner because of

the trailer. They put scenes, well, there. Now, that was a

different movie. But there were a few scenes that were even in the trailer for

that, for the conjuring that weren't even in the movie. Like the hands

clapping interface that you saw the hands. Yeah, they, that was not in the movie.

Or I'm having a Mandela moment and it was there, and I,

never mind. But, yeah, they just,

I don't, I, I don't see any reason

for a sequel. It's like, sinister. Why don't you just leave Sinister alone?

Sinister was a fun ass, creepy as hell standalone

film. Hats out of the bag. I don't understand how

you can go back. I didn't mind. I didn't mind the sequel

to that too much because I thought the last act was okay,

but it really was just an excuse for, like, here's more super eight films.

Family is getting dead. Yeah,

exactly. So it's, that's. I've kind of,

for me, it's just been, like, short stuff lately. Just back to work.

Don't have. I literally have the attention span of a nance. And,

yeah, it's about the only thing I've actually sat down to watch lately.

Well, that's completely fair. I have two

recommendations and one not.

Momendation. Is that a

word? It is now,

as soon as you can, and I know it hits shutter soon,

sit your ass down and watch oddity.

What a fantastic movie.

It's very straightforward, but it still throws curves left

and right. And it's probably one of the best plotted movies

that I've seen in a long time. It all comes together at

the end. It makes perfect sense. There's no real ambiguity

to it. Great, great stuff.

And on the opposite side of that, have I told you all to watch long

legs yet? Have you watched long legs yet? I have

not had a chance.

It's one of my favorite movies of the year. And it's not

straightforward. It's very confusing and twisty,

and it's. It's incredible. Like,

I didn't think that I would like it because of so much hype.

Dude, it's a stone classic. It's just like, it's like

looking through a kaleidoscope. It's incredible.

Oh, shit. Oh, I forgot about this. If you're not like a horror person

and you have prime, you should watch jackpot with awkwafina

and that invisible guy. It is so fun.

It's just like this action movie. Ridiculous,

free for all comedy. And it's got enough pop

culture weirdness that it kept me engaged. I watched it,

like, I don't know, twice in three days. That's really good.

But, and this is old school. I'm coming in late to this

party. We finally watched Furiosa.

It's not good.

I didn't like it. I call it Furioso. So.

So to quote, to quote a Morton Joe in

Fury Road, it's. It's mediocre.

I wanted more. I didn't get it. The sound mix

is just God awful. Terrible.

Anya Taylor Joy doesn't have the aura to pull

off such a badass character as our

beloved imperator. Furiosa and Chris

Hemsworth is fun to watch. He's a bit of a hoot,

but he didn't really have enough ambivalence to be the antihero

that the movie needed. And, you know,

he was the one who thought he was right, even though he was wrong.

But even so, he doesn't. He doesn't

carry that off like I thought he should have.

And there's other characters, and you can go to hell with Pretoria and Jack

and that shit ball trio. Life at the end. It's just a huge, huge,

huge disappointment. So there you

go. That's. That's what I've watched, and you're welcome.

I do this for you people. You know, this.

Oh, God. I used to write a column called Netflix Roulette,

and I would just go through. This is the early days of streaming

Netflix and just, yeah, go through all the horror movies.

I think I found, like, three that were not shitty,

so I would just be writing about this. And I always hang it with,

I get to watch this so you don't have to. I pretty much

do the same thing. I had an article. I had a column called prime in

the dustbin where I could find all the lousy,

lousy movies on prime Video, and they've stopped

taking a lot of that stuff, which makes me sad

to be has it. Now watch to be if you want

hot garbage that cost $8

and, you know, a six pack to make to be is your place.

That's fantastic. I love it. Also.

Me too. And prime video. So be just folded. It's just. No,

it's not there anymore. We're high class. We're. We're making

tv shows. Bird to burg to burg. I don't care.

I want to watch a piece of garbage, and if you can't give that to

me, I'll go somewhere else. Mm hmm. Amen,

brother. Also, we've had Covid in the last couple of weeks,

and we are seriously behind on things. You want to help a brother

out, subscribe to our Patreon. So it seems like a good time

to throw it in there. It's $3 a month, bitch.

For the cost of a bean of coffee per day, you can help

us get back on our feet, and we will give you content eventually

when we finally have time to record or don't. That's fine.

You don't have to get bent. It's cool.

Let's talk football. Because we had to watch.

We watched two movies from the seventies about american football.

Ba wants me to adjust to sitting on the bench.

Hell, I'll die on a bench. What's the sense

of the team winning. If I don't survive, huh?

You'll survive.

Really? You know what I do?

I pull for the other team. So we'll get behind it. Be a lab to

put me in. That's weird.

Drop it.

There's a theme that runs through all this data, Phil.

It's immaturity. You're immaturity. You lack seriousness.

Yeah, I'm sorry if my immaturity has offended you.

Now, honestly, try to change. And when you do start

me, I'll make you glad you did.

North Dallas 40. If you were moving any slower, you'd be going backwards.

Very funny, Elliot. Very funny. Yeah, I'm a very funny

guy. Hunters. That's it. In case.

Mark, that's real

devotion. You remind me of the magnificent missionaries

of history.

They're shooting at the cows. Hey, I know. I know it's

not your time of. Thing, but I happen to be more of a philosopher.

I like to mingle with the little people.

Nick Nolte and Mac Davis.

North Dallas 40.

Gross. Not gross.

That's gross. Oh, they got the good up

now? Oh, yeah. It's an old story. Boy meets boy.

Well, I love happy endings. The difference

between good and grace is that much.

I thought he came from all those funny little fields. We took a bag of

marijuana. Maybe you ought to take some vitamins. Well, have some extremes.

Mind if I do get a Parmesan? Well,

I'm having chocolate pudding breakfast with champions there.

Too damn much b twelve.

That's what comes from not concentrating.

Now that's concentration, Elliot.

Wait a minute. Just getting to the weird part. Survive.

Do we part the weed part?

Yeah, it gets weird. Paramount Pictures presents

a Frank Yablan's production,

Dallas 40. Wait till you see the weird part.

You have probably allegedly just heard the preview for North Dallas

40, which came out in 1979. A football

film from director Ted Kochev.

What else did Ted Koche do? Like Suzanne said, he hit first

blood and he did. What was the other one?

Wake and frighten. We can fright that australian joint,

which is so atmospheric

and creepy. North Dallas 40 stars. Nick Nolte is Philip Elliott.

Mac Davis as charismatic quarterback Seth Maxwell,

Charles Derning as coach Johnson. John Matuszak

is in here. Bose Ventson is in here. GD Spradlin.

Lots of b movie favorites in North Dallas 40, which is

about the fictional football team. One of the north

Dallas Bulls or something like that.

Yeah. Yeah. So North Dallas 40 is

really sort of the dark side of football,

which, again, is great, because I don't know anything about this

sport. I've been to one football game in

my life, I was six, and it was the Bengals

playing at a stadium that no longer exists.

So there you go. That's about as much as

I know that. And Cootie's dad really likes college football. So when

he's watching the volumes on sun or Saturdays, I can

hear him just Rick flairing from the other room. If the team does good,

just. That's that. And that's how I

know that the balls are winning. I'm gonna throw this

over. That's what my backyard sounds like. Uh huh.

I figured that. Yeah.

I, you know, lived in Knoxville for several years.

You learned to bleed orange on Saturday. That or avoid

it.

It's like, it's a childhood thing for me. My grandfather taught

me football, baseball,

boxing, and how to pick the ponies around.

Here in Knoxville on Saturdays. We have learned not to

go downtown to avoid I 40 and I 640.

And just to spend your time shopping at the food city in

Granger county. Oh, yeah. Because one

of my friends almost bled out after an accident because

of traffic around Nealand.

That'S just ridiculous.

Isn't that really messed up? It was so

packed, so tight, the ambulance couldn't get through.

From what I've read, when Neyland Stadium is full,

it is the fourth largest city in Tennessee,

population wise. Oh,

absolutely. That's incredible.

I'm going to throw this over to you, suze, what do you think about north

Dallas? 40? Well, this is like when I really.

When I was still pretty young at the time, when I

really started watching and, you know, paying a little bit more

attention to football and this movie, just for me,

just the realism rings so true for me.

And even now into the early eighties,

they've definitely softened the game up. But this is, I think, is a very,

very, very brutal look at what

NFL football was in the seventies, sixties,

seventies, maybe even into the eighties.

And, you know, it's like all the characters,

you know, all kind of ring true. You've got your, you know,

the quarterback always, you know, kind of putting it taken up for

the offensive line because they protect him,

and pretty much, he pretty much would be.

He'd have your back if it was going to benefit him. He was never anyone's

real friend, and I think Mac Davis played

that part so well. I loved

how the ownership acted. Well, all of your businesses make way

more money than your football team, but no, we love our football

team. That is the end all, be all for the family is

how the football team does. And I don't know,

I gotta look up the name, but it was based

on a novel by a guy who played for the

Dallas Cowboys. Peter Jenkins.

Yes. So there's a lot of realism

and truth to it. And I'm sure maybe,

I don't even think anything was all that exaggerated. And I just

find that Phil's character is just.

He just seems like he's maybe a little too intelligent

to be doing what he's been doing. He wants to start, of course.

Everybody wants to start. His body is so

beat up, abused, broken, and even

mentioning in the movie that, yeah, can't sleep more than 2

hours. Because if everything hurts and it makes

you wonder if people would have chosen this as their career path, is this

really worth it? And there's a scene where the coach

was telling him, it's like, well, some people learn to enjoy sitting on the bench.

And it just proved that if it doesn't matter how good you are,

you're only as good as that play

that you make. And sometimes that's not even enough.

But I think it's a really great character study. And one of the other random

faces in the locker room, and I swear to

God, I could not find his damn name. But he played HBO,

had a little short run series called first

and ten, and the team was the California Bulls.

And one of the guys that was in the locker room, one of the players,

he was in that, too. And I cannot find his damn name.

But for me, like I said, this one is all about centering

on how these people interact with each other.

You know, how the family ran it.

Dabney Coleman is once again in this is just the.

Just a wonderful, snide bastard. But, you know,

you love him. Cause he's Dabney Coleman. But he plays that kind

of a part so well. It's the mustache.

It is. It's got. It's the damn mustache.

Somehow he has a trustable mustache.

Yeah. He can, like, slide all

over the place on the charm of that mustache. He could get it.

But I like. Yeah, but I like the character

study. And that's a lot about what this movie

is, the character study. And I.

I just. You really hope against hope that he just says,

you know, screw it, and goes and has his horse ranch

and stays away from football. And you want, you kind

of, you kind of want the quarterback who pretty much gave it up just to

save his own ass. So that, for me, that was the one scene where

everything that I thought came to fruition when

he lets you, when he pretty much tells him. Yeah. You told that you

knew. Of course he knew. He told to

save his own ass. Yeah.

There's another scene that actually struck me and like I said, love football.

Love some football movies. Some are pretty terrible,

which we'll get into when

the starting wide receiver, you know, pulled the hamstring

and he was like, I'm not putting drugs in my body. I don't want to

take any chances of hurting myself any further.

And finally gives in and they shoot

him up, goes in and really, really,

really fucks himself up. Is it worth it?

This movie poses those kind of questions. And for me,

the seventies, seventies eras of films are my

favorite. There's something about the

fact that during the seventies even, you know, at the

start of the seventies, you know, the hays code kind of got swept

under the carpet. Films were allowed

to be, you know, more.

I know what I'm trying to say,

deal with more controversial matter,

drugs, you know, sex and all of

that. And this one, like I said, just, it really,

for me, truly lifted the veil of what went on in

an NFL locker room.

I truly enjoy the hell out of this movie. It's one every

couple of years right before football season, I have

to revisit it just because it's.

It's just what I remember when I first started watching

football with my grandfather and seeing people just get the shit beat

out of them and carted off the field.

So that's kind of my assessment of North Dallas 40.

North Dallas 40 is. Is dirty,

it is filthy, it is druggy,

it is deceptive. And I

love it so much. This level

of grittiness is really

what I wanted from the Iron Claw. Like, if you know

me, you know, I'm a wrestling guy. That's my, that's my sport.

No season, love it every week. And that's the kind of stuff that

I wanted to see from seventies Texas wrestling.

But we get the Iron Claw is just,

oh, God, it's such a velvet glove sort of movie and

it irritates the piss out of me. But work out those forties,

great. They went for the

softness of iron Claw instead of the actual brutality of it.

Yeah. Which why,

like, you had your chance to do something better than all the marbles

and you just screwed it up anyway. Nick Nolte's character in

North Dallas 40 is pretty much how I think Nick Nolte was in real life

back in the seventies. Just smoking and weeding and

drinking and bawling and just, you know,

have a good time all the time. That's my philosophy,

Marty. But he's in pain for the

entire movie. And he keeps trying to fill those.

It's gonna sound awful. He keeps trying to fill those hurting holes.

Giggity. With anything he can find. Also giggity,

buddy. I identify with that. I never wanted

Nick Nolte to be my soulmate, but I will be

dipped in dip if he's not my soulmate in this movie.

Also as his love interest. Nice to see Dale Haddon in

this movie with her black hair and her pretty eyes. I,

of course, know her best from the classic french art house film

spermula.

And I don't think she ever showed up in a man.

You're right.

I had. That caught me off guard. I had a,

let's be honest, no idea that even existed.

You got the Internet. I'm going to

have to go find that. You can look that up. She never showed up in

american cinema again. But that's the power. That's the power of Nick.

It's a curious thing. Maybe more so than

Nolte. Like you were saying earlier, is Mac Davis as the

quarterback Seth Maxwell. Seth just gives

no fucks poot. He's got a game to win. And it doesn't matter

if it's cheaper to keep her. He's going to snort and shoot his way to

the top now. Mac Davis, back in the day, was a famous country

singer, but I always thought he was a much better

actor. He may not be the star of the movie, but he's the

solid spine of North Dallas 40.

And there's cameos and supporting roles just at the yin

yang from people we love. Charles Derning, GD Spradlin, John Matusek,

Alan Tree. For crying out loud, who was Bubba in the tv series

in the heat of the night? Bose fencing is here.

Why wasn't Bose Vincent in every movie ever made in

the seventies? He should have been in Star wars. It would have been great.

There's this one scene.

I didn't even recognize him at first as Joe

Bob. Did not. And how many times have I seen this damn movie? And I

know he's in it. Exactly right. I got

used to seeing him in b horror movies. Yeah,

he's like in Niko Masterakis movies and not this

relatively large budgeted, serious football

movie. It's crazy. There's a scene in the locker room

before the north Dallas Bulls go out to face Chicago.

And as far as I'm concerned, it is as intense as. As any scene

from the Deer Hunter it's men preparing for battle.

Some are leaning on religion, some lean on drugs,

some lean on each other. It's an astounding sequence.

It's a showstopper for me. Like, when I think about North Dallas 40,

that's the sequence that I focus on. Everything else before

and after, just kind of gets swept away.

That is the scene, and it's an amazing watch.

The final betrayal in North Dallas 40 comes

so far out of left field, it's kind of like, I don't

know, like getting hamstrung on a golf course where your family's watching you

play. There's so much resentment and

reasons for hatred and sadness and

disgust. But Nolte gets us

through this entire movie as a solid, if not

incredibly flawed, human being.

His performance should have earned him an Oscar. It's that good?

Oh, yeah. I. Look, I don't have football feelings.

I've made that clear. But my God, do I love

North Dallas 40. It clarifies that even when

your heroes are human and they're doing the best they can to get by and

they get to get along and to get over, and in that

respect, respect, North Dallas 40 affirms

everyone's desire to be great, even if it rolls around in the muck

and the pig shit to get there. Great, great movie.

Oh, that one scene between Joe Bob

and John Matusik's character when he's literally just patting him on

the shoulder pads, you know, just come on, we gotta get in there.

And it's just. It's just that that exchange between is

so incredibly intense.

People might look at it as a throwaway, but for me, it's like just

the sheer intensity and the build

up. And as you said, preparing for battle.

And I think it says a lot, too, about male

emotions and how men are expected to

behave and process situations

because they don't have any choice

but to, I don't know, man up. Which is kind

of a lousy way to say it, but, you know,

tuck it in. You get out there and you do it, and that is

it. Your support system is situational,

conditional on how the team reacts and how

the team plays. Oh, it's just,

it's. It's almost chilling. God, I love that sequence.

Oh, I know. It's. There is, like I said,

there's a quiet intensity to the whole locker

room scene. It's. You can just. You can. The tension

is so palpable when they're trying to get themselves their

heads in the game and when the wide

receiver decides that he wants to play and

takes the shots for me, that broke me.

He was so steadfast against drugging

himself up so he wouldn't, you know,

completely destroy his body.

And for glory of game coach telling

him, we really need you out there. After seeing Nick Nolte get

that shot in the knee and he did it. That was.

That broke me. It just. I put my head

down. I've seen this movie so many times, but still,

that is such one of the many intense

moments in that sequence. Agreed. Just incredible.

So I guess this is how we do this. Now, if we were going to

rate North Dallas 40 from.

Well, it's football, so I guess from three to seven,

is this a full touchdown or a field goal?

Oh, God, it's a full touchdown. It's. It hits everything

in it. It doesn't soften the blow. It's not

pretty. It's dirty. You almost need to

go hit the locker room and take a shower after you watch it.

I'm in agreement with that. Full, full touchdown.

Perhaps a sweep of a series. Just.

What a great movie. I cannot recommend it highly enough.

The only reason I've only seen it a couple of times is because

of my unfamiliarity with football.

But once I sat down and watched it, you know, a few days

ago as a mature adult who's, you know,

let's be honest, we've been through some shit at this point

in our lives. North Dallas 40 really resonates.

And if you've not seen it, you really need to give that

thing a watch and be prepared to

be blown away on an emotional level.

It's not just your good old boys playing ball sort of movie.

It's really good. We're going to take us a break and we're going to come

back and talk about another movie, which I don't think we liked nearly as much.

And the Armadillos head for the locker room, trailing by only three

touchdowns. We hope you stay with us for our half time extravaganza

as your Texas State marching band presents their tribute to gun racks

and open beverage containers, which is only legal in Texas.

We've been experiencing a brief kerfuffle here.

Apparently I sent a message about

changing necessary roughness to semi tough. So I've

seen semi tough before, but I have a page full

of notes on necessary roughness. So I want to do a little brief

bit on necessary roughness. X has also watched it.

He's going to give us a few of his thoughts as well.

And then we're going to slide ever so gracefully

into semi tough so necessary roughness.

1991 NCAA sanctions

team pretty much gets the death penalty. Everybody's out and

they bring in an aging quarterback who, blah blah blah,

eligibility, blah, blah blah, great cast,

which is completely wasted on this piece of horror shape film.

It's just, I'll be honest,

with a cast like this, you've got Robert Lojo, you've got Hector Elizondo.

I didn't even recognize Jason Bateman in this. Scott Bakula,

who always. Scott Bakula has acted himself into

a corner. He's got no range.

He's good at what he does. But this is where we sit.

Sinbad was wasted. I could watch Hector Elizondo

and Robert Loja fold shirts and be

happy because they're just too very great actors.

I'm glad they didn't go. They went out the season, blah,

blah, blah, bullshit. Because, hey, we all know that is

never, ever going to happen.

It's just generic to me,

the two people that steal the show for me, and I

know actually going to have a lot to say about this, too, is Larry David.

This guy is the smarmiest fucker ever.

He is the just, he is

just the perfect smug asshole. And the other one, even though

I don't like him, Rob Schneider, who is

the announcer for the play by play

announcer for the team. He's a lot

more laid back, but he's got some pretty humorous moments.

Necessary roughness is just an unnecessary watch. And those

are my, that's my two cent.

Damn. Talk about, talk about

damning with faint praise. I mean, look,

I don't, I don't hate necessary

roughness, but I don't like it.

It is because what you have to do

to get any ounce of enjoyment out

of necessary roughness is understand how

sports movies generally work.

Underdogs will not remain underdogs.

Unlikely romances will pop up. The bad guy

is usually a member of the head office or one of the brass.

There's going to be a loophole in the rules that will

benefit the rag tag group

of misfits. And in most cases,

the teams will improve and grab a big victory

and you get all of that unnecessary roughness and you can figure

the whole thing out in the first 510

minutes. So what matters in a movie?

Like, yeah, I mean, at least by the end of the first

act, if you're, if you're a little bit dense,

you know, it might take you a good 2025 minutes, be like,

oh, shit. Wow, I didn't see that coming.

Fuck you. Yes, you did. Jesus. Heaven cries if you saw,

if you've seen any movie, you know how this is

going to turn out. But again, the cast

is great. Yeah, Scott Bakula is.

He's. He's Scott Bakula, and that's pretty much

all he is. But in this movie, he's, you know,

he's gruff enough. He gets

to drop an f bomb in front of the alumni.

So it's fine. Robert Loggia

is here, and he's got that voice.

And Hector Elizondo is just calm and

unruffled. But again, we were talking about Larry. You were talking about Larry Miller,

and I believe. I believe that.

I don't know. Do you say Larry David? I thought I said Larry Miller.

And I said Larry David. I have a feeling it. Well, we all know who

I'm talking about. Well, we're going to clarify that right now. Larry David

is not a necessary roughness, but Larry Miller is.

And I do believe that whenever we discuss Larry

Miller from now on, we should just use the phrase national

treasure Larry Miller, because that man

is the king of

bureaucratic leather chair bound

bad guys who follow the rules pedantically

and to their own demise.

He's amazing. I think

you're right about Rob Schneider. Too young Rob Schneider with a big

head full of black hair, doing his best. Bob Euchre. That was all right.

I still like. I just love seeing Fred Dalton Thompson in

anything. I'm a Tennessee boy. He's a Tennessee guy. And just

to see him on screen without saying, stack them,

pack him and rack him, love it.

I just think necessary roughness

is great for a person like me, who has no

fucks to give about football, because it's.

It's vague. Like you said, it's generic. I mean,

yeah, the players say stuff like, I don't know, blue 42,

whatever the fuck that means. But that's just lingo, you know.

Necessary roughness is good guys versus bad

guys. There's an obligatory bar fight

because of course there is. And it's just like bubbly

fun. It's a movie that you can put on while you're, you know,

doing dishes or giving yourself an enema. And it's

fine. It's just background noise. So it is necessary

roughness is background noise. That was very good

to see Fred Dalton Thompson. He's literally in the movie. You're right about,

what, three minutes? Three or four minutes? Yeah, that's about it.

He's in there in the beginning offering him the job. He's there at

the end firing Larry Miller. That's your friend Dalton

Thompson, folks. And he is amazing in everything he's in. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Agreed. He may be

one of the only things that elevates necessary roughness up off

of the Astroturf. And yes, I will make

my correction. Yes. I think I said Larry David. I meant Larry Miller. I wrote

down Larry Miller. For some reason, Larry David got stuck

in my head and that's really not a good place. It's okay. At least you

didn't say David Miller, because I don't know who that is.

My cousin.

Yeah. Huh. Was he. Was he unnecessary roughness?

No. Okay. Well, then we're cool. Yeah.

Yes.

All right, let me see. How do they slide gracefully into semi

tough? You have to imagine me putting on a

ball gown and sensible shoes and waltzing

across a wooden parquet floor into the

waiting arms of Chris Christopherson.

This here is a movie about the second most important thing in

the world, football. And also about the

first most important thing. It's called semi tough.

You don't come near me till you brush your teeth. It stars Burt Reynolds

as Billy Clyde Puckett, a running back who lives for just two things.

One of them is football. You don't give up, do you? Oh,

you wouldn't like me. Chris Christofferson is shake Tiller,

a wide receiver with great hands and beautiful,

beautiful moves. Jill Clayberg

is Barbara Jane Bookman. Her daddy owns the team and

she plays with them. It don't look right. My daughter living with two of my

players. I'm not sleeping with him, Daddy. That's what I mean.

Ain't normal. Now they're all playing together

in semi tough. Okay, guys, I get em. You got

me. The story of two guys, a girl and a

football, and all the wonderful people they meet on the way

to the Super Bowl. TJ, you pull that girl back, you hear? We got a

big game Sunday. Their spiritual advisor. Why can't we go to

the bathroom if we have to? Because you can't. The men who inspire them.

Time was, this country was pure. There was people you

could look up to. Lombardy, MacArthur,

J. Edgar Hoover and the. Women who admire them.

How could we have so much fun? Try to not end up bed together.

It's all about passes, but not the kind you throw.

It's all about scoring, but not on the field. Are you kinky?

Those ain't mine. It's all about the world's greatest game,

and it sure ain't football. Leave on the underwear.

Semi tough, starring Burt Reynolds, Chris Christopherson,

Jill Claiborne and Robert Preston has big ed from different

jokes, from different folks. When you're semi tough. It don't

matter if you win or lose, just as long as you score.

Semi tough. 1977, also a

football movie with, of course, Christus.

Hi. The guy. I just said his name. Chris Christopherson.

Jesus Christ. Christ. Why is that so difficult? It's like saying

Kris Kringle was in this movie. It's just too

many K's, too many f's. I don't know.

Chris Christopherson's here. Jill Clayberg is here.

I don't know. She's. She's better

than this movie, that's for sure.

Also directed by Michael Richie. Michael Ritchie did a

lot of great stuff in this seventies,

God's hand in the eighties. I mean, Brav did the

golden child, and he did the first Fletch

movie. And just all

kind of prime cut, just all kinds of

great stuff that Michael Ritchie did, which makes this movie feel like

sort of a. What am

I looking for here? He's, um.

He's slumming. He is slumming in this movie.

Absolutely. I mean, I don't know how you go from a

underrated comedy classic like the survivors with

Walter Matthau and Robin Williams, or the bad news

bears, for crying out loud.

Or even if you go back real far, you'll find

out that he directed the candidate.

Oh, my God. The candidate with Robert Redford. What a fantastic movie.

Oh, he's totally slumming in this, then. Yeah,

those are all action

heavy, you know, content heavy.

This is not meaning heavy,

and this is terrible. Here's.

Okay, do you want to talk about this first, or do you want

me to. You go. Okay.

I misread the times. I haven't watched it in two, three years.

It's okay.

Semi tough is a mean spirited

bait and switch. This is not a football movie.

It's a comparative religions movie. It's about self improvement

schemes and belief systems, which would have been fine if

I hadn't been expecting a football movie.

Instead, it's a standard 1970s Burt

Reynolds comedy where he. He giggles and he.

He mustaches, which is an action verb now.

And he just berts all over everything. And we're supposed to

think it's funny. It's not funny.

It's cruel to. There's some football,

and the scenes involving the team are pretty funny. Ron Silver,

as a non english speaking place kicker is really fun to

watch, but that's not the main plot. Here's the main plot,

and I'm fucking. It's a 47 year

old movie. If you ain't seen it by now, not my fucking fault. This movie

is about Burt Reynolds pretending to be an adherent

to his best friends, Kris Kristofferson, to his spiritual

alignment so that he can steal Christofferson's

fiance, Jill Clayberg. And they've both

been friends with this woman since they were kids.

So it's a romance, sort of. And it's

cute, albeit demented. And it's

just a really hard watch. I don't

know how we're supposed, supposed to like Burt's character when he

spends more than half of the movie betraying his good

buddy. He's a scam artist and a

jerk. And the feel good ending is tacked

on, and it doesn't feel good at all. It's a feel

slimy and gross ending. It's a,

it's a scrub your balls with Brillo in the

shower ending. Now this is, after all the

racial slurs that you expect from a Sobeys movie,

including a scene where Reynolds makes fun

of Mary Jo Catlett for being a

big woman before taking

her back to his room for what I can only assume is a pity fuck.

Now, first of all, don't you ever, ever make

fun of, of Mary Jo Catlett. That woman is a wonder.

And secondly, don't treat women like garbage and then

try to get them into your bed. That's lowbrow, that's shitty,

and I do not respect that.

Some of these health self help programs

deserve a good lampooning. This movie makes

fun of est, if you remember that from the seventies and,

and the human potential movement and other

self actualization sects that were popular back

then. You don't remember Est. I remember

Est was led by a guy named

Werner Erhardt, and his whole thing was,

you need to experience things in a natural and

organic fashion. So he would charge people an exorbitant amount

of money, herd them all into a hotel banquet

room for a weekend, lock the doors,

yell at them, call everyone in their assholes,

and refuse to let them use the bathroom. I am not

kidding. I wish I were.

Yeah, it's like, you're a terrible person. You need to break down

the terrible person that you are and also. So just go ahead and

piss your pants. Go ahead. It's fine. It's fine.

Oh, the seventies were such a weird

friggin time. But the issue for me is that semi

tough is not the vehicle for this

sort of insightful,

if you will, parody. You want a movie that did it right,

you go look at serial from 1979, the Nora

Ephron movie that properly makes fun of the Orange

County, California scene. Back in the day of hot tubs

and wife swapping and new age religions and Martin

Mall and what a fun movie that is. That's the correct

setting for a parody like this.

You don't use a football team,

and definitely not one with Burt Reynolds.

So semi tough is not a rom.com, it's not a

dramedy, and it sure as hell in a football movie.

It's a. It's a. It's a

mess is what it is. And don't even get me started on Jill

Kleberg's awful Texas accent. My God, it hurt my ears.

Stay away from this movie. It wasn't good then, it ain't good now.

It's just. No, no,

no. Nope.

Okay. Like I said, it's been a couple of years since I've seen this because

I totally suck. Human, apparently.

Oh, no, I think you're sanctified for not watching this recently.

You know, for me, this is why this movie is never stuck in my head,

which is why, you know, it's just one. I would, oh, well,

I haven't seen this in a while, and I watch it, and I literally walk

away from the movie with nothing. It leaves me feeling

nothing. This whole, it's. It's.

It's football light. It's not. It really has nothing

to do with football. It has to do with friendship. And I swear to God,

I would call the whole triangle between Chris

Christopherson, Burt Reynolds and

Joel Kleber. Were they a throuple? Were they pop? Was it a polyamorous

relationship? Because I just found their dynamic

weird. It wasn't even that.

It was plutonic. It was platonic until Kris Kristofferson

popped the question to Jill Clayburg,

which left Burt Reynolds on the outs. So he was like,

well, hell, I guess I need to lie my way into her pants.

Yeah. And that just out of, you know,

sportsmen trying to just, you know, get in

there, you know, it's just, there is. There's very little

that ever to take away from this movie. It's for me,

after I watch it, I really, once again, it literally leaves my

head the second it's over.

There's no substance. There is no compelling character.

It's just watered down

bullshit. I remember. And once again,

for me, it's the supporting characters that are. I do remember

Ron Silver because I think he's the only character that actually stood out in the

entire thing. But it's just not.

It's. It's empty. It's the only thing that I've

ever come away from that movie. And I have tried to watch this movie several

times. It is empty. It is devoid

of any concept

of hearts. They're just terrible people

trying to one up each other. And it's lame.

It's lame. It's just. It's. It doesn't even deserve

the title of generic because generic has to resemble something.

There's nothing here. It is empty.

And that's all I can put together. I wish I felt nothing

after watching this. But semi tough is like cotton candy that

tastes like a moxicillin.

There's nothing there. It might make you feel better

for a minute just because you get a giggle out of it. It might

not. I didn't laugh the entire time. I just.

I was mad. I was mad the whole time I was watching. I was like,

when will this fucking end?

I have to piss like a horse. And this

movie is not letting me do that because I have to watch this.

Oh, I hated it. I hated it. I hated it. So I guess if we're

going to go from a scale of three to

seven, this is what

they call it in football when you lose yards and. You have to fall back

pretty much. This is third and 40

on the. On your own one. Is that bad?

That's very, very, very bad.

It's like the first play of the game and you punt. This is a

safety for the other team. Oh, my gosh. Okay.

Yeah, we don't like

this movie. So there you go.

I'm sure Gary likes it. I'm sure Gary has something wonderful to say about

this we didn't even think of. It's going to make me feel like garbage and

going to be sad for the next 48 hours.

I'm going to punish myself and watch this. But let's be

honest. No, I'm not. No, you're not.

I encourage you not to. I mean, I will

venmo you $5 to never watch this movie

again. I will

donate to your patreon because you did watch it,

which I'm going to do tomorrow.

That's. That's kind. That is sweet of you.

Gosh, you know, we talk. We talk about, I don't know,

how we can help each other and charities and stuff like that, and all this

terrible thing happened. There's not really a support system for people

who've had to watch semi tough like the Red Cross doesn't care. They're not going

to send you a blanket because you watched Burt Reynolds strap

a urination device to his cock and put the reservoir

in his sock or down his boot. You know,

emotional support. Honey Badger.

Yeah, I can't call. I can't call, you know,

a mental health resource and be like, look, I'm having a

really hard time. I just watched fucking semi tough,

and. And I don't know what to do with myself. It's just.

It's just not that important. But from a film lover's

standpoint, that's an atrocity.

You know, usually I can find some even.

There's a handful of movies that I really can find no good out of.

And this, like I said, I haven't watched it for a

few years, but I never. It's not one of those movies.

It left me feeling anything. It was over. It was over. It immediately

went out of my mind. It meant nothing to me. It didn't

give. It didn't have a message. It didn't have.

It didn't have anything worthwhile in it for me.

So. So let's do this. Since we have dropped

trial and shat all over. Semi tough,

throwing this at you. Kind of. Kind of, you know, from left field.

What is your favorite Burt Reynolds movie? You have to have one.

Oh, God, yes. There's. There's two,

but they're on completely different ends of the spectrum.

Good. I grew up in love with Trans Ams

because of Smokey and the Bandit. I love Smokey and the Bandit. It's just

goofball off the wall. I laugh my ass off. I sing every

song. When I get really irritated with people at the bar, I just

completely. I will start playing eastbound and down, over and

over and over until they leave. If I play that.

If I play that song for Cootie, she gets mad at me. And she doesn't

get mad at me often, but she's like, God damn it, it's gonna be

stuck in my head for a year. Well, you have that

song with Cootie. I play Sister Christian. My husband wants to fucking kill

me. He hates it with a passion. Why, you're motoring.

What's your time for flight, exactly?

Finding Mister right. Come on. Oh, God. I don't.

Don't make me get going down that path. That'll get ugly.

You'll be all right tonight.

Oh, God. And the other one, even though it's like I said,

it was so controversial. It was actually in the hidden

section at my mom and pop video store, is deliverance.

It's a great movie. All anyone

thinks of is one scene in that movie. But they're missing the

entire movie. It's a survival story.

It is. It is. It is brutalist.

They're in a harsh environment, struggling to

live. Once again, amazing cast,

mustache list. Burt Reynolds doesn't have anything to hide under.

Well, except for that life vest. Yeah.

But this was back when he was young and he filled out

the life baths very well. But that movie is,

it's, it's beautiful in its brutality.

It doesn't pull any punches. But I miss, once again, a movie

from the seventies. The seventies. Favorite era of filmmaking.

That will always be my favorite era.

What are yours? Yeah, I have to agree with the seventies. The seventies

I love ever so much, because there was a rawnesse there.

It didn't feel as corporate as it does

now. But my favorite,

God, my favorite Burt Reynolds movie is 1979,

something that came out 78.

Close enough. It's the end. Have you seen

that? Oh, with Dom Deluise? Yeah.

Yes. That is my favorite Burt Reynolds movie.

It makes me laugh so hard, but it's so good.

It's such a, like,

it's got, yeah, it's got

depth, it's got weight. And it

has one of my favorite lines from any movie ever,

where he takes all the pills

with milk and then vomits, and he just says, it looks like Walt Disney threw

up. Holy gods, I've used that one so many times,

it cracks me up so hard. But yeah, what a

fantastic that is in, in my mind, that is the best

Burt Reynolds movie that he ever made. Bless him.

So. Oh, God. Yeah. I have to admit,

I haven't, I have not thought of that movie in a

long time. I remember watching it several

times times, and it's, it's literally parody on death.

And they, once again,

he always, for me, I like the way that he acted with Don

DeLuise. They had just this really great rapport.

With each other, even, even in garbage movies

like the cannonball run or was it,

what, Captain Midnight or whatever. What a piece of.

Yeah, just stupid, but I

don't know, the end. And, yeah, Reynolds from DeLuise had a great

relationship. They had a great working relationship. And I just,

I just love that movie. And no one talks about it.

I haven't seen any, I don't know, deep dives into the

end. Giggity. But it's

worth watching. It's worth seeing. Oh, it definitely

is. I honestly, until you said it, I haven't thought of it

in a long time. And guess what? I'm gonna be pulling up in the next

couple of days. I hope so. I think, I think you'll still enjoy

it. I think I will. I watched it once

again a couple of years ago, actually. I think I watched around

the time Burr Reynolds died because I went and just deep dove into all of

his movies and I was watching and I'm like,

oh God, I forgot how much I enjoyed this. And it just put

a, just a different spin on things and

yeah, we're gonna have to figure out a way to fucking work that into something.

Everybody needs to see that. I agree entirely.

So I don't know exactly

how to end this show.

So let's do this. Do you have

anything that you, you want to plug

or talk about or just,

I don't know, just discuss?

I enjoyed, I enjoyed this podcast

very much. This is where you will find me.

I am writing again, which is kind of scary.

No, it's not. And I'm happy. It's actually,

it's helping. It's awesome.

It's awesome. I know, I do too. But it's awesome that you're running again.

Oh God, it's, it's therapeutic right now

and I have so many new horror stories in my head, but apparently

the, the pile of bad luck my life has been for

the past twelve months. You've got some.

Yeah, I was gonna say you've got a whole lot of material happening

there, dear. So I

will pose the same question. What would you like to plug?

What are, what's on your mind? How do you want to

be remembered?

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Let's call it a plethora of shows.

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as often as he can on other people's shows.

He is ubiquitous.

He is everywhere. He's like fucking Jesus.

He's just everywhere. Not Jesus,

Elvis. Well, maybe. Maybe they're the same. They might

be the same. My God,

I have choked on beer. Thank you. You're welcome.

I just went from Mojo Nixon to calvinism. I don't know how that happened.

Anyway, my name is

x. Say goodnight, Suzanne.

Goodnight. This cinema beef has been brought to you by the

word kerfuffle. Yes, kerfuffle.

And by the letter seven. That's not a letter.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Yep. It's like we're out of here.

See you, everybody. See you next time. I don't know what movies we're doing next

because no one's told us, but maybe it'll be necessary roughness.